**** Mayweather vs. Pavlik @ 160 ****

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  1. punchdynamo

    punchdynamo Active Member Full Member

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    Even the worst of *******s wouldn't touch this. Floyd huggers...:nut
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    What? Boom Boom started the thread and he's a *******!

    :rasta
     
  3. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    and proud :rasta
     
  4. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I still dont buy the argument that this is too one-sided for Pavlik

    speed triumphs over power many of the time as history has shown us, I remember not too long ago people were saying Pac had no chance at Hatton when Pac was at 130, its a reasonable fight down the road for Floyd if Pavlik remains at 160.
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I know. I wasn't knocking you for it.

    :rasta
     
  6. mrarmey

    mrarmey New Member Full Member

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    Obviously floyd doesn't have the power to gain his respect. He would keep him at bay with movement and angles, something Pavlik has shown he doesn't respond well to. All Pavlik pretty much does is come forward using the jab to set up the right. As we saw with Hopkins, Pavlik can be beat using superior boxing. Hopkins beat pavlik by using speed, accuracy, befuddling him with movement keeping him off balance and Pavlik couldn't adjust. He basically utilized skills floyd excells at.

    I know floyds not hopkins and the size discrepancy may prove too much but floyds greatest strengths are paviks greatest weaknesses.
     
  7. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik's reach advantage of 3 inches would be huge coupled with how heavy handed Pavlik is. Another point most forget is, even if Kelly would be missing Floyd's head, he is absolutely going to be catching Floyd's frame(arms, chest, etc.,). I have noticed Kelly has the same mentality as AA does, if either fighter don't respect there opponents power, which I am sure will be the case here, they will run down or bully the man in front of them for the KO/TKO.
    Floyd WILL win rounds, that I have no doubt, but feel Kelly will wear him down with his pressure style.
    Fight will NEVER happen and if it does have a chance to materialize, Kelly will probably be at SMW.
     
  8. punchdynamo

    punchdynamo Active Member Full Member

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    Look at the poll results. Half of the people here believe that Mayweather will beat Pavlik. :patsch That is nut-huggery. Even the worst of *******s know when to stop the nonsense as I don't think that even they would vote for Pac over Pavlik.

    Mayweather-Pavlik is a 50-50 fight? Really?




    Really?
     
  9. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd knows how to win fights. I think beating Pavlik would require him to take it to a whole new level, but I'm sure he would do just that. Pavlik has no other level.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I like they way these guys bring up the Hopkins fight, but conveniently ignore what actually happened in the fight. Acting as if all Hops did was use lateral movement is pure ******ation. But then, most of these tards probably do not actually have a clue what Bernard did do that was important.

    #1, strategic clinching; virutally everytime Kelly started to get something going, BHop clinched. Somebody needs to tell these morons that Bernard is a LHW who is an absolute master at clinching. If little Floyd tried that, he would get mauled, manhandled, and straight up violated.

    #2, Bernard gave Kelly a choice; "show me massive respect, or get knocked the **** out!" Make no mistake about it, BHop can punch. He is obviously not a KO artist, but he rocked Pavlik's world, something Edison ****ing Miranda could not do. If guys like Miranda, Taylor, Zuniga, et, got no respect, little floyd sure as **** would not get any.

    #3, Bernard is 6' 1" with 75" of reach. Kelly is a little taller with the same reach.

    Now, let's take away the strategic clinching, floyd can't do that. Let's take away the respect, floyd wouldn't get any. And then lets give Pavlik a 5" height advantage and a 3" reach advantage. Finally, let's factor in the reality that Pavlik can probably put floyd on his ass with a jab to the chest, and that the effects of a semi-flush right hand would probably last 3 or 4 rounds. I think most sane people would have to agree that this shapes up to be quite different from BHop/KP.
     
  11. Tszyu

    Tszyu Active Member Full Member

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    If Pavlik came in at 175 I bet all the nut swingers would all be complaining about size difference. But if Mayweather is the heavier one, it is only skill, not size that matters.
    lol
     
  12. punchdynamo

    punchdynamo Active Member Full Member

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    Don't forget that they would complaining about how Pavlik refused to disclose his weight fight-night (maybe he doesn't like HBO or something) and was probably a heavyweight by fight night. And that's why Mayweather lost.
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    its not outta question...Floyd is handling his weight and speed very well...Not saying it would be exciting or even pretty by it is fair to put up an argument...
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik has never been 175 at fight time. However, there have been times when he made 160, and rehydrated to 170-172. So lets assume floyd is 158 on fight night (that's probably a little high.) That means the weight difference is 12-14 pounds, and the height difference is 5".

    There is also a serious tempermant difference. Floyd is a safety first fighter. Pavlik is a pedal to the medal, in your face, fighter. He'd simply act like the bigger man, and maul, manhandle, and mangle floyd.

    The fact that this poll has this basically a 50/50 fight demonstrates the high incidence of down syndrome on ESB. Reality is this is a 75/25 kind of fight. 75% PBF would never consider taking it. 25% he takes it and KP leaves him slumped in a corner with permanent brain damage.
     
  15. punchdynamo

    punchdynamo Active Member Full Member

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    it's really is out of the question. pavlik has made his career so far by fighting the likes of jermain taylor, miranda and bhop.

    are you suggesting that it's fair to put the jermain taylor, miranda, bhop, abraham maybe even chad dawson in the argument as well? why not just move into MW then.

    booradley has broken it down. thread should have been closed already.