Mayweather vs. these fighters in their primes...

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really. Only DLH was aged out. Mosley was older too but he famously ducked Floyd to go to the dentist. Cotto sat ringside w Arum when Floyd fought (iirc) Bruseles...needless to say Cotto went different direction. Pac was guilty (as was Floyd) because he could've just taken the blood tests in 2009 but Floyd ducked him in 2010 (or 2011).

    In some ways Crawford had similar challenges to Floyd in that he got avoided by top peers. And when Floyd finally beat Manny lots of asterisks popped up...same for Bud w Spence. Madrimov is no Canelo but hes also no pushover. If Bud beats Madrimov he tries hard for a Canelo 168 fight otherwise may unify at 154...both are good imo

    For reference, Bud that beat Spence beats any version of Floyd...
     
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  2. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. I believe he loses at least 2.
     
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  3. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    Pretty hard for anyone to go through that list and remain undefeated. Especially when you’re smaller than most of them
     
  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Allow me to break it down in this manner as many of these fighter's primes are at different weights.

    De La Hoya (prime 135-154)
    Tszyu (prime 140)
    Mosley (prime 135-147)
    Cotto (prime 140-154)
    Margarito (prime 147)
    Forrest (prime 147)
    "Winky" Wright (prime 154)
    Trinidad (prime 147-154)

    First of all, Floyd's prime was 130-140, he was never prime at 147 so it's a reach to ask a non prime/over weight class Floyd to perform against the prime versions of Trinidad, Margarito, Forrest and Winky in particular. Oscar is a legit question as their primes do coincide at the same weight, as does Cotto, Kostya and Shane.

    With this being said, even a post prime Floyd IMO beats Margarito.
    I see Floyd beating LW Oscar but not WW Oscar (as his size allowed him to perform better at WW). When they actually fought at JMW (and Floyd won), this wasn't Floyd beating a post prime Oscar, neither were prime.
    I think Floyd would be trouble for Cotto at any weight,
    I think Floyd beats Kostya.
    I think LW Mosley beats Floyd but WW (where they fought) neither were really prime and the Shane Floyd fought was the same one that melted Margarito and lost to Cotto.
    Forrest I've always said would've been a hard fight for Floyd, Trinidad I think beats Floyd as Trinidad stylistically doesn't lose to guys with smaller frames/dimensions.

    There's no conceivable way that Floyd beats Winky and to me that hypothetical was always a silly one.
     
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  5. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crawford was the one who chose to stay with Bob Arum (his fault). I would not compare Crawford beating Spence to Floyd beating Manny. Spence was critically impaired in that fight. Manny was just Manny and Floyd was always the superior boxer and the favorite to win.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He loses to them all end thread
     
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  7. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

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    The only thing I can say with confidence here is that Margarito outboxes Mayweather to a 119-109 decision.
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Floyd was NEVER superior to Manny. All Floyd had over Manny was having the Vegas judges
    backing him plus having the Nevada commission making themselves look very suspect by attempting to bail him out of the IV gate scandal. Everyone knew the rules of Saline drip for treatment of dehydration, it probably wasn't dehydration though again everyone knows what it can hide
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO You wouldn't get Mayweather in the ring with Antonio Margarito LOL You may as well try to get him in with Sasquatch lol. Antonio would knock Floyd's cowardly ass out & he knows it
     
  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Cj if you ever die, the mere mention of Floyd would bring you back to live In an instant

    Beyond obsessed
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You should see how Gimp C is insta summoned whenever someone says something negative about Floyd.
     
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  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    50-0 #NoExcuses Yezzzirrr! :lol:
     
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  13. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    As dislikable Mayweather is, we have to accept that he is an ATG, with truly incredible skill.

    Against the guys mentioned there, I think he probably would have outpointed all of them in pretty dull fights. However, if we are talking the guys in the 80s such as Duran, SRL, Hearns and Hagler - that would be a much more interesting comparsion.

    PS - I think Floyd against Duran and Hagler is 50/50 because Floyd is capable of making it his dull fight. However, I think SRL and Hearns had too much for Floyd.
     
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  14. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of those guys would fight him in his prime. Floyd and pacs prime weight is 130-135. Most of the guys on the list fought at 147-154
     
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  15. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    No. Even if each fight was it's own fantasy entity prime for prime. DLH would have won the decision at 140. Mosely at 135 wins a decision and maybe by KO. Floyd outpoints young Cotto. Maybe even wide, much as I love Cotto. Tzyu loses on his feet but wide af. You start talking 147 and such as Trinidad? Floyd was too small for that even if he was the better fighter than them all. Winky? Really?