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No.

The NSAC does not test for EPO or HGH.

 

Yea, well, in all fairness people discredit Floyd's linear title at 147 all the time, and far more consistently. Linear titles either matter, or they don't. According to a lot of posters on here they don't for Floyd, but do for others.

 

it becomes an issue when the fighter is a champ at that weight, pacman getting credit for being a champ at a weight he didn't fight at, fighting a person of a catch weight in one thing but when fighting for a title then suddenly claiming to be a world champ at a weight above you wtf.

just take your head out of manny ass for one second even though its real tight and feels good on your head, and look at what your typing your all over the place.

 

Manny beat the best at 122? I don't think so.
The best at 135? Nope.
The best at 147? Wrong.:deal

Besides, Floyd beat Hatton and Hoya before Pac and is fighting the MAN at 147, Suger Shane.:yep

 

because 145 isn't the welter weight its 147, then claming to be the champ at 147 is what makes me slag off manny.

 

well neither do you.

At least I've done some research. I know that athletes generally use HGH out of competition which according to WADA is the likely reason why noone has been caught with the blood tests yet at the Olympics. I know that the olympic style drug test to detect EPO are urine tests and that gooes along with a vast majority of PEDs.

I also know that random blood testing up to 24 days from the fight and after the fight and random urinalysis at all times is already a major step in the right direction. I also know that Pac's previous opponents all accepted to fight him without imposing some kind of additionnal testing procedure, and that Floyd has never asked this kind of procedure out of anyone else.

 

Which begs the question of why have weightclasses at all if they are only restrictions to fighters who don't have the name recognition to set their own rules? Just because it happens doesn't mean it should happen. Sanctioning bodies should not allow a title to change hands if the fight happens at a catchweight.

If a fighter wants to win a title at a higher weightclass then he's welcome to fight for it, but his opponent should be allowed to make the weight that he is accustomed to making. If Manny could beat Cotto at 145, but couldn't beat him at 147 is Manny a legitimate WELTERWEIGHT champion? And if he could beat him at 147 then just fight him there.

 

Random urine test at all times are great BUT that's with Olympic style testing as you put it.

Pac requested the NSAC do the testing and the NSAC does not test for EPO or HGH in anything.

 

thought about it alot..it really came down to why he didn't offer a medium...floyd wanted the 14 days and pac wanted the 24...offer 20 and try and meet in the middle...dont just say "fuc4 you we fighting joshua" and act like its just as good of a fighter...pac not making a counteroffer told me he didn't want no parts..and again freddie himself said 5 days

edit -24 not 21

 

floyd criticizes pac for taking cotto's belt at 145 catch. floyd has a point here but he should stop bickering when he himself used his position of leverage to let opponents agree to his stipulations. pac fighting cotto at 145 for the belt is pac's stipulation. he used his leverage and cotto agreed. it's not right but cotto was compensated for it. now if he is the one bashing pac for this, he is not on a higher moral ground just because he has not fought a championship fight at catchweight. he just pulled a worser situation against jmm when he used his leverage to let jmm agree to his stipulations is all i am saying.

 

Pac wanted 24*

Even then, what's wrong with 14?

And why did he want the NSAC to do the testing when they don't test for EPO?

 

You're right, I don't either, which is why I'm content to let the professionals work it out amongst themselves, and ignore the random proclamations of people on a boxing forum. It's a complicated issue in a rapidly changing field and no amount of leisure time research can make you fully informed, so why pretend to be?

 

:nono

 

The point isn't that Floyd is a good guy, or wouldn't have done the same thing, because he very well may have. It's that he is correct. You want to find a reason to turn this around on Floyd, but the fact is what he is saying has merit. A true statement is true regardless of where it comes from.