Mayweather will make $117 million if this fight does 4 million homes!

haha the only reason I could see caring is it would reflect how good boxing is doing

 

Is there any info on the ppv numbers for the fight were?

 

That is so unbelieveable. He will make around 22-25 as reported. I think Oscar has made the most in any fight. He was making this when he was fighting Trinidad and he has been a damn ATM ever since. That is where the real money is at in boxing, with De La Hoya.

 

lotta money hope it did he earned it

 

**** the money, we ain't getting any. So long as Floyd fights the good fights, I'm happy.

 

No. Top fighters are contractually get a share of PPV sales after a certain level of buy - usually for the broadcaster to recoup cost and some profit. It is NOT "their revenue" (be definition of the law).

No my math is fine. As I said, you just don't multiply what he is going to earn with 2 million buys because that number includes guaranteed purse and gate share. You remove that then you get an idea what he might earn.

So it is better to speculate and be wrong than to speculate and be right?

 

Absolutely, no-one will dispute this.

Definition of which law? You realise that you only make one payment when you order a pay per view right? The payment is to HBO, by "definition" of the word revenue, this is HBO's revenue.

No your maths is not fine. You said:

Nothing should be multiplied by two. You would subtract the fixed income from the total (58.5m) giving you the amount that Mayweather earned on account of PPV sales. This is divided by two million minus the PPV threshold (500k as in your example). This figure is Floyd's income per buy, assuming non-progressive receipts for buys. If you multiply this figure by two million you'll get the additional income Floyd will receive from two million extra PPV buys. Please explain how this equates to 20 x 2....

What is right about you speculation? You have replaced an inaccurate calculation based on one figure with an inaccurate calculation based on your arbitrary figure.

 

pac - pbf might make 4m buys.....not the mosley-pbf one.....

 

I do not want to get in to legal semantics here, but Mayweatehr Promotions, GBP and etc are all party to the recipient of that payment. They have as much right (as contractually agreed upon) to that revenue as HBO.

PBF is guaranteed circa $22-$25 mil for the fight. That is even before 1 sale of PPV. That is before the gate. That is before promotion/licensing revenues. So if he is expected to make around $58 mill for 2 million PPV buys, we subtract his guaranteed purse from that. You get roughly $35 mill. Now subtract gate and licensing revenue. Reasonable to say $20-$25 mill is left for 2 million PPV sales. Multiply that by 2 for 4 million buys and add what we previously subtracted before (guaranteed purse, gate, licensing, etc). Now you understand where "more like 20x2" comes from?

See above.

 

This fight will do around 1 million buys.

 

Hey you brought up legal definitions buddy. But I guarantee that every cent spent on PPVs goes on HBO's balance sheet, I understand what you're saying since they don't retain it, but it is their revenue.

I get the 20 million (arbitrary or not), but you still don't see what I'm saying. The initial figure is based on 1.5 million PPV buys (since 500k are irrelevant- the threshold) therefore to convert to 4m buys you don't multiply anything by two you multiply by eight over three.

 

I think you are taking a long way to a short drive.
But let us entertain you...
Say $25 mill for 2 million buys.
Minus 500K threshold and you get roughly $18.75 million for 1.5 mil PPV.
Add the $25 million for 2 more million buys and you get $43.75.
If the range is $20-$25 mil for first 2 mill PPV buys, the end number is in the range of $35-$43.75.
Thus "more LIKE 20x2"
Not "it IS 20x2" or LESS likely than 58.5 x 2 as OP concluded.

 

You do realise that you arrived at that figure by following what I just said don't you?

Let me refresh your memory

Due to the threshold which you yourself mentioned nothing is multiplied by two, that is just plain wrong.

You suggested quite rightly that the wrong figure was being scaled up but in actual fact it was the wrong principal and the wrong factor, you didn't seem to realise this so I pointed it out for you that's all.

 

As I said, you took the long way to a short drive. And I qualified my statement in the onset with "more like".

I was certainly not going to make a proclamation written in stone as we are all not privy to the exact numbers and details of the contracts. My whole point was to put the numbers in a reasonable sphere.


Edit - I actually made a mistake.
The numbers is not $18.75 for first 2 million PPV buys. It remains $25 mill as PBF's payment, reasonably should not include the 500k threshold.

So if the range is 20-25, the end number is 40-45. NOT 35-43.75 as I originally wrote.

 

These guys are prizefighters so money is everything