Mayweather's 72" reach vs Pacquiao's 67" reach

Maybe a little bit. I doubt it will make much difference though because.

1. The difference is small.
2. Pacquiao is strong and powerful which negates some of the main advantages that size gives you.
3. They will probably have very similar weights in the ring on fight night.
4. There are advantages to being smaller such as speed, mobility and work rate.

This fight will be decided by skills and fighting styles not size imo.

 

Thank you! :happy

 

Based off Pacquiao fighting past opponents with longer reaches and the success he had fighting them, I would say little. Many other fighters it would, but Pacquiao seems to have a great ability to isolate reach and height advantages.

It'll come down to other factors, not reach.

 

It won't matter, Pacquiao will find a way to get closer and bust Floyd's face.

Pacquiao wins a close decision with 1 or 2 knocks downs.

 

Floyd holds almost every advantage against everybody he's faced. What advantages did Guerrero have? :huh How many times did Floyd put him on the canvas?

 

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Damn right. You will see that vocal range advantage during the fighters entrance.

 

People always talk about Floyd's ring intelligence and "making adjustments" during a fight. To me, as an uneducated boxing newbie fan, that seems like a very generic statement. Can someone tell me specific examples of some of the adjustments he has made in fights? And which of those adjustments will help him against Pac?

 

An example would be Mayweather picking up on your timing and small habits you do.

Maidana threw a really awkward overhand right. Mayweather tried to lean away from it, roll it off his shoulder, etc but he still kept getting hit. About halfway through the fight, he adjusted by figuring out the timing of the punch and that dropping his entire body by using his legs would help him avoid Maidana's overhand right. So instead of rolling, he dropped. Maidana had a tough time landing it after that.

 

Thanks. Don't a lot of fighters make adjustments like that when they're getting coached in their corners? The last GGG fight against Murray comes to mind when he kept try to get him with straight shots and hooks. Then, at about round 4, he went with a ton of uppercuts to meet Murray coming in. When he was still missing, his corner told him to aim the uppercut at Murray's throat and not his chin. After that he started connecting solidly.

 

I've always felt Floyd usually doesn't make too many adjustments. He either has his game plan figured out from the start or he has fought his opponents' preferred fight and ground them down at their own game or doing what the opponent would have preferred. Here are some basic reasons for my thinking there since 2007, but really it applies to more fights than not for his whole career as a ranked fighter.

Oscar- Floyd selectively shelled up rather than ran out and stood his ground when he threw... the two postures Oscar would have been satisfied with out of Floyd going in
Hatton- Floyd mugged, wrestled, and brawled with Hatton on the inside... Hatton's MO and wet dream
Mosley- Floyd walked Mosley down from start to finish and traded with him... Mosley's ideal circumstance
Ortiz- Floyd fought very aggressive and some would say "dirty" at the end... the two things Ortiz does best other than being an idiot
Cotto- Floyd exchanged off his back foot, moved slowly both pressuring and evading, and shelled up against the ropes at Cotto's will... all posture from Floyd that Cotto would most want to see
Alvarez- Floyd was willing to and did stand and exchange with Alvarez all night including walking him down for stretches... this seemed ideal for Alvarez if only he didn't try to outbox Floyd on flat feet rather than move in
Maidana I- Floyd straight up brawled out of a stationary stance with Maidana and fought with his back to the ropes for most of the first 8 rounds leading to an overall output of half the punches thrown... Maidana's ideal reaction and opportunity against any opponent



A couple recent fights where he made some adjustments, sometimes the adjustments are really obvious (for instance, he is the master of preserving energy and taking advantage of opponents' poor stamina as well as letting them blow their load in the first 4 rounds):

Mosley - he started leading the whole remainder of the fight instead of throwing with or trying to counter like he did in round 2 which got him into a little trouble

Cotto - you can see him slowly pump up the volume and snap of his sweeping right hooks and lead uppercuts, the two key punches stylistically heading into the fight

Alvarez - measured the distance perfect throughout and engaged smarter with selected pressure as the fight progressively went on, not as though he lost many of the early rounds though

Maidana I - to sweep the last 4 rounds he stepped into his shots while moving laterally in the center of the ring which is what he should have done start to finish... his clear adjustments from the first fight to the rematch proved to be light years of difference in competitiveness of the bouts

 

I think Mayweather's game plan is going to be controlling distance (jab to head and to the body) from the bell and going to Manny's body effectively for the first few rounds, this will allow Mayweather to steal air from his opponent basically slowing Manny's legs down enough to the point where Manny because semi-stationary midway through the fight. I think Mayweather is going to use the right hand effectively but the left hook could be the telling punch in this match, I feel as if Manny is more susceptible to this punch then the straight right because Manny tends to lead with his head way to often (ala Hatton), Mayweather is a Grand Master at this stage of his career and even though he slowed a little just like Pacman slowed a bit also he makes up for the physical disadvantages by using his experience, ring IQ, and picking up on bad habits much quicker than he did when he was in his 20's and capitalizing on them. I heard some people say the younger Mayweather could beat the older Mayweather but I strongly disagree because this Mayweather hasn't slowed that much as people think and don't let that Maidana fight fool you keep in mind styles make fights and if you give Mayweather the space he will quickly pick you apart like he did to Guerrero not to long ago (4 fights ago) and also Canelo. Pacman doesn't know how to fight on the inside, he's small, and has shorter reach than a Maidana and you must keep this in mind. I don't see anyway this fight could be that competitive and the closer this fight gets the more I see this as a lopsided fight, I don't see anything Pacman can do to defeat Floyd even If Pacman tried to ambush Floyd all night I don't see that working because Floyd is too defensively gifted and Floyd will eventually start to counter Pacman which will slow Pacman down sooner than later.

I see Floyd winning this by 12rd UD.

 

Not much. It's not like mayweather towers over pac. When you have pacs speed and angles a reach disadvantage is the least of your concerns.

 

well, there are two ways to measure reach, one is arm length and the other is i guess wingspan? I'm not sure which one is more important but when someone throws punches, arm length may be more important than a measurement of shoulders, back and arm length, IMO.

When manny faced Algieri, there two measurements telling contradictory stories - arm length, where manny had longer arms, then wingspan, where Algieri had the edge. Manny has long arms for his height and it may explain why he has had such a easy time finding bigger opponents' chins often. when he fought DLH (who has '73 reach) Manny had an unbelievably easy time finding DLH's face, he hit him at will. Interestingly, DLH gave Mayweather trouble with his length but against Manny, he was helpless and couldn't use his reach advantage to his benefit.

I think arm length is more important and i bet Mayweather doesn't have a 5in advantage there. When Manny throws, i think he surprises people with how easily he can close the gap and connect.. i've seen it time and time again..

 

Let's all hope he uses the shoulder roll then so he would eat laser lefts all night.atsch:rofl:rofl