Mayweather's adjustments in the Mosley fight

shane was never anything at 154...he was always better at 147

 

Good point

 

People don't understand what happens in fights. It's like people who think Dawson could have beat Pascal if he just let his hands go.

Floyd adjusted very well to Mosley, but his initial gameplan was pretty weak. Pacquiao will make Floyd adjust so many times that he's gonna dig himself a ditch and trust me push comes to shove, Pac will push him in.

 

No.

How can anyone forget emmanuel only having the D gear and no 1 or 2 when going up the Morales and Marquez mountains?

 

If Pac only had the D gear against those guys, they would've beaten him more often than not.

Instead, he came out on top against both of em. And Barrera too, which you completely forgot about.

 

Except that Shane is clearly far more over the hill in contrast to Floyd. Floyd is still at least somewhere near his prime at this point, Shane was out of his prime a long time ago.

it doesn't matter what peoples expectations were before the fight, what happened is what happened. Mosley came in looking slow, out of shape, and gunshy from the opening bell. Listen to Emmanual Stewards commentary, he knew what was up.

Not a mute point. He came in against Margo looking lean and cut up and he had the stamina to fight 12, hard rounds. Against Floyd he was huffing for air after 2 rounds. His body looked soft. He wasn't in great shape.

If Mora is just as skilled as Mosley at this point then that proves how far gone Mosley is. Mora is a B level fighter at best. Mosley has lost to far, far better fighters in the past and looked much better, even at 154.

 

Barrera didn't present a style difficulty for emmanuel to overcome. Flat footed left hookers are food to emmanuel.

The first Marquez fight was scored a draw, and some guys straight from the philipines think Marquez won the 2nd. emmanuel didn't have enough gears in the box to shift it to the next level.

Morales style was too much for him the first time. The second was competitive, but Morales was too far in his decline by then. Morales was already traveling down the slope during the first fight, his legs were going spaghetti towards the latter parts.

When push comes to shove, Floyd shifts into the 5th or 6th. Corrales wanted to talk trash to Floyd outside of the ring and became instrumental in the performance most people consider Floyd's masterpiece. Castillo had some success in the first fight, but "forgot" how to fight Floyd in the rematch. Corley managed to tag Floyd with a few flush shots, and ended up getting floored multiple times. Judah won the first 2 rounds and had to resort to a lowblow to stop the Mayweather AZZault. Hatton kept rushing and paid the price by getting KO'd. Mosley's 2 punches brought out the most malicious round from Floyd in years.

 

Shane Mosley looked like **** against a shot Mayorga, right after he lost to a prime non shot Cotto by one round. If anything Cotto, Margarito and Mosley are over hyped, people keep saying Mosley looked so great vs Margarito, but what about the possibility that Margarito is a ****ing hype job/cheater that ****ing sucks and blocking punches with your head doesn't work if you face anyone with knockout power? Cotto,Margarito,Mosley were just overrated and made a name beating the crap out of each other, plus the fact Mosley is old, but he got beat about as bad as you can get beat vs Mayweather which is what should and did happen. Pac and May are another level.

 

When you're nervous and confused, what happens to your breathing pattern?
Are you suggesting 15 months of inactivity and an almost completed training training camp for Berto didn't have an impact?
Add to this how **** Shane looked his last fight.
Add to this the fact he had settled a little in the later rounds and HAD to go for it.

But here's the kicker:

Margo - Shane punch stats

Mosley totals
Thrown 507
Landed 178

PBF - Shane punch stats

Mosley
Thrown 452
Landed 92

3 2/3 rounds less than the Mayweather fight and Mosley threw 55 more punches.

The reason he threw more in the later stages is because he was poor beyond words for rounds 3,4,5 & 6, 11 wasn't so hot either.

Mayweather is a genius no doubt, that's why I picked him by wide UD.
But to disregard other factors and simply say "Shane didn't gas" is not necessary true.

You do know a fighter can gas with nerves then catch a second wind yeah? Happened to me in a few AM bouts.

Or maybe you really believe that a **** poor total of punches thrown in 4 rounds was purely down to Mayweather.

 

:yikesare you serious

 

now compare other fighters and how their output also decreases against mayweather


you will see a similarity

 

Mosley was exausted by the third round. Any boxer can adjust while his opponent ran out of gas early in a fight. Had mosley being younger it would have being a win for him.

 

De La Hoya threw against:

Trinidad 648 (closer to peak prime)
Mayweather 587
Mosley 616
Pacquiao (4 rounds less) 402
Hopkins 315 (round 9)

Not seeing much here.

Look I'm not denying fighters output lessens against Mayweather. But if you're saying it's purely down to him in this case you're mistaken imo.

 

floyd will not get the credit he deserves until he's retired for good and people can put his career in perspective.

it's trendy right now to call him a ducker/fights smaller men which, imo, he isn't. can't fight smaller men if you've moved up several divisions...and who has he really ducked? people are quick to say the usual names (cotto/marg/pac) but they're all top rank fighters....kinda suspect. as far as him taking a vacation instead of fighting pac, the truth is we really don't know what happened in their negotiation. did pac agree to the drug testing as floyd laid out after the mosley fight?

and the backtracking of posters should really stop. at one point it's floyd's too scared to fight so and so...but when he dismantles them, so and so is shot/old/sucked to begin with. it's alright to give credit to boxers that may not be your favorite...just enjoy the sport. talent like floyd (and pac for that matter) comes once in a few decades..appreciate them while we still can

as far as the video...good stuff...i personally didn't notice that when i watched the fight. i just figured he was coming forward to smother shane's punches...not giving room for leverage

 

and the other 39, excluding ODLH and Mosley

i find it a bit amusing you chose ODLh to look at, being that was the one fight that floyd would had had problems slowing someone down due the the weight the fight took place at