Mayweather's Canelo obsession

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  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Little boy Floyd is just jealous that Canelo is erasing him by accomplishing far more than Floyd could ever dream of.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you watched the fight, did you notice how many times Mayweather was feinted and flinched hard, particularly in the early rounds.
    If you watched the fight, did you notice how many times Canelo hit him with clean shots and how many times Canelo landed to the body?

    Floyd landed more good shots on Canelo but to say it was easy for Floyd is obvious BS. Floyd said himself in a recent interview that it was a "chess match". Then he changes his tune and starts bragging about how easy it was. Even Floyd can't make up his mind about how hard it was to beat Canelo. Floyd calling it a chess match is a way of saying that he needed to use high level strategy and tactics to win. That's the complete opposite of it being a "cakewalk". If something's a cakewalk, you don't need to play high less chess to win.
     
  3. African Cobra

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    Floyd beat him easy but he recognised Canelo’s talent. You are about the only one I have come across who does not understand it was a comprehensive win.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well he was the seasoned, experienced P4P #1. He was the favorite, he did what he was supposed to do to a young up and comer Canelo who was thrown into the deep water with the best fighter in the world at that time. There's no shame in Canelo coming up short to Floyd, he was out of his league that night. But in a losing effort, he still had a decent amount of success at times vs Floyd. And lets face it, compared to Floyd's previous opponents, Canelo fought Floyd closer and more competitively than them. I just don't buy this idea that it was a cakewalk or that Floyd didn't struggle. It was a very hard fight for Floyd, he relied on the jab. Yes he performed well and won fairly comfortably, but it wasn't as one-sided as people continue to make it out to be. I think you, like Floyd, are trying to convince people that it was more one-sided than it was. That's a sign of insecurity. I would suggest just letting the result stand on its own two feet rather than trying to embellish it. A competitive 12 round decision that Floyd won should be good enough.
     
  5. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a clear win for sure. But Canelo has come on a long way since then
     
  6. African Cobra

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    No one needs to embellish as the videos show it was a relatively easier fight. To be honest I found it diff to score rounds for Canelo even in sympathy. Floyd was seasoned and way past his athletic best at 36 years old. At age 23 Floyd Pretty Boy Mayweather like any good hit man was knocking guys out. Canelo was a 8 year veteran with 40 professional fights and a reigning world champion when Floyd kicked his ass. These are just the facts. Now I know you may not like it but that is what it was
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Well Floyd gave him a life lesson in boxing. If an esteemed distinguished professor gives you some expert tuition you will improve.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's you who doesn't like the scores being so close. The facts are that Canelo won 3-6 rounds according to the judges. The judges didn't have a difficult time giving Canelo 3-6 rounds. It's apparent that rounds 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, and 12 were each extremely close and hard to score and any of those could be scored for Canelo. Now giving Canelo all of those close rounds and scoring it a draw is definitely too generous to Canelo. But giving some or most of those close rounds to Canelo and having the match close on the cards is perfectly reasonable.

    What you can say is that Canelo didn't win any rounds clearly. Floyd won round 7 clearly, and a couple of other rounds like 8 and 11 clearly in my opnioin. Canelo didn't win rounds clearly, but he did arguably edge a number of close rounds. So many of the rounds were difficult to score, and whether you have the match wide or close depends on who you give the close rounds to. You could give Floyd round 2, for example, for landing more jabs. Or you could give it to Canelo for landing that clean hook in the final 30 seconds and finishing the round strong. So if your argument is that you found it difficult to score rounds to Canelo, well yeah I can understand that, that's because many rounds were so close that you could argue Mayweather edged a lot of close rounds by landing more jabs. Mayweather makes it hard to win rounds against him, but you can't deny that Canelo gave Mayweather more close rounds than pretty much any fighter he's ever fought besides Castillo earlier in his career.
     
  9. Young Terror

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    Floyd is filthy rich. Hes one of the best ever in his sport but hes insecure AF. Even when ppl where trolling around talking about Wanheng Menayotin the thai fighter who was about to equal his record of 50-0 he almost had a meltdown and now Canelo. Something is wrong with this cat he should just sit back and relax his legacy is set in stone but he cant help himself.

    Just another example that money doesnt solve everything.
     
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  10. miniq

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    Yes a weird obsession, Canelo has no redeeming qualities to obssess over, why not Fury instead?
     
  11. African Cobra

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    Maidana and Oscar won more rounds but you know what I don’t need to argue the point with you if you want to believe Canelo won more rounds good for you even if to be fair both Canelo and the Reynoso’s know he did not.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Techically Maidana won the same amount of rounds the 1st time as Canelo did vs Floyd. And that was after he fought Canelo. What I'm getting at is that when Floyd fought Canelo, that was the most close rounds anyone gave Floyd since Oscar. And personally I thought Canelo did better against Floyd than Oscar did. Oscar was well past his prime when he fought Floyd, Oscar abandoned the jab after round 5 and he didn't hit Floyd flush or as hard as Canelo did. In my opinion, Canelo won more rounds than Oscar did against Floyd and the version of Floyd that Oscar fought, while younger and more in his physical prime, wasn't as seasoned or as experienced as the older version who Canelo fought.
     
  13. African Cobra

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    Like I said if you want to believe that knock yourself out. I don’t know what you are on but it must be what they call good ****.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wouldn't you agree that Canelo vs Floyd was fought at a much higher level than Oscar vs Floyd? Regardless of which match you thought was closer, you can't deny that Oscar v Floyd was like a pillow fight compared to Canelo vs Floyd lmao.
     
  15. Forza

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    it was a razor close fight, canelo was not in his prime yet and floyd was exiting his prime. You're a biased fanboy if you think it was a cakewalk
     
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