Mayweather's Comp. vs Other Welterweights Comp.

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Or a fanboy who thinks it's a good post.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    :yep:yep
     
  3. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man, tough crowd :!:

    I created it slowly over the course of 6 days. As you can see by most of my post I like doing research, as knowledge is power in anything you do. Plus there are plenty of websites with boxing info that made this post a lot easier then it looks. I also work 2 jobs during the weekdays so a lot of time on my hands is not something that I have.

    Its very telling that some of you guys are more concerned about trying to put down a poster like me who you know nothing about rather then focus on the post. I have also never disrespected any of you and have looked to be as respectful as possible when I do comment to any of you. But I also don't make these threads for those people anyway. I make it for the people that want and appreciate the info.

    Now back to the point of the thread. First I never stated that PBF was the greatest fighter of all time. That's not the point of this thread. PBF has fought more competition BY FAR from the ages of 21-25 then any of these fighters have at those ages, that's the point. While most of these fighters were fighting average fighters in order to develop there skills and pad wins for future big pay days like most normal fighters do. PBF was already fighting big fights vs real real good fighters. Some of which he was the underdog. Now PBF and these fighters are meeting at welterweight. PBF is 32 and has plenty of time left to fight top welterweights. And if he didn't break a rib he probably would be fighting Cotto or Pacman right now. At the end of the day PBF is going to end up fighting more highly skilled comp throughout his career then any of these fighters. Yet he is the only who is constantly getting criticized for his level of comp, Go Figure.
     
  4. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about? Very few people dispute PBF's resume before his move to 140?
     
  5. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Sorry, but your post was completely informative. You just can't do it by age, because by the fact that Shane is what 37/38? You've just discounted the last 5 or 6 years of his resumé. Awful post.
     
  6. chesh

    chesh Active Member Full Member

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    Good research, but I think it was a mistake to put "welterweight" in the thread title. While PBF's earlier career is comparable to - but, I would argue, not better than - Cotto's or Pac's, his career as a welter is dreadful when compared to that of Cotto or Mosley.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    what you seem to not understand is that people can see behind your not so subtle attempts at spinning the reality of the situation. if you had presented the info in a way that showed you were being objective and not just working for the defense team then you might get a little more respect. you started gathering this info with a purpose in mind and not just curiosity and it shows in how you wraped the whole thing.
    it also doesnt help that you are another one of the 100 noobs who all of a sudden joined up when floyd started making records. if your going to join a cheering squad dont get your feelings hurt when people dont take you seriously.
     
  8. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    What a method.

    AGE 22

    Mayweather - Juuko(33-2), Carlos Gerena(34-2)

    Amir Khan - Barrera (65-6), Kotelnik (31-2), Salita (30-0-1)


    Wow. How impressive.

    Next.
     
  9. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    By the way if it's the welterweight division we're talking about:

    Mayweather:

    -Hatton (43-0)
    -Baldomir (43-9-6)
    -Judah (34-3)
    -Mitchell (56-4)


    Mosley:

    -Margarito (37-5)
    -Cotto (30-0)
    -Collazo (37-2)
    -Cruz (33-0)
    -Estrada (18-1)
    -Forrest (34-0)
    -Forrest (33-0)
    -Stone (30-3-2)
    -Taylor (28-0)
    -A.Diaz (35-2)
    -ODLH (32-1)
    -Wise (24-6-4)
    -Rivera (30-3-1)

    Miguel Cotto:

    -Clottey (35-2)
    -Jennings (34-1)
    -Margarito (36-5)
    -A.Gomez (18-3-2)
    -Mosley (44-4)
    -Judah (34-4)
    -Urkal (38-3)
    -Quintana (23-0)
    -(there's more, but you get the point)
     
  10. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's what we're looking for. But you did leave out Marquez at welter for Floyd.
     
  11. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Yeah I kind of ran through the list. I might have missed a few others (I know I didn't complete Cotto's).
     
  12. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Your post has merits and I aknowledge that you never claimed it to be the gospel truth. Your detractors, as you may have noticed, are bona fide haters in denial. While they're dissing your thread, they fail to define what they view as valid opposition.

    You've stated the cold hard facts yet the cold hard facts, in the twisted minds of haters, is bull****.

    But what's not bull****, according to the haters, serves their own interest. They have zero objectivity.

    None of the haters thought Mosley was good opposition before he exposed Margarito. He was too old, not enough of this, too much of that. Back then the man PBF so desperately wanted to avoid was Margarito.

    Now that Margarito has become a big embarrassment, the haters now turn to Mosley.

    Understand this: I'm not one to applaud Mayweather's ww resume and, yes, I agree that his latest matchups were questionable. If the haters showed any balance in their criticism they wouldn't be haters but balance is something haters won't even contemplate.

    According to haters, Mayweather's career is flawed from the very beginning. His accomplishments are not worth mentioning on account of various twisted logics and weasel speech. Titles, records, names, in other words cold hard facts don't mean a thing according to haters.

    To haters: why, instead of jumping on every opportunity to bash Mayweather, don't you just ignore him?
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i see where concrete gets his writing style.
     
  14. LastQuark

    LastQuark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL! What happen to your research? Now you are guessing and speculating.

    You are just another nuthugger liking someone and trying to justify why you like him. Grow up....
     
  15. STILLFADED

    STILLFADED Fight Night Legend Full Member

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    The difference is: at no other point did the other fighters on this list (besides PBF) ever have acted like they ruled the world, were an ATG, "dismissed" fighters for bogus reasons, and generally disregarded the desires of fans even tho' we pay their wages. As the old axiom goes: "what have you done for me lately..."