Mayweathers Defense: Is it Perfection?

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  1. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    right jab then hook to the body or left hook/uppercut. Notice how he uses his shoulders to cover the left side of his face and his right arm covering his body.
     
  2. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He got rocked some by chop chop, but it wasn't a lack in his defense which caused it. He was standing pretty much squared up without any respect for chop. And chop through probably one of the hardest shots he has ever thrown, throw it at floyd when he was throwing a wide hook. The impact sounded like he got shot and floyd never saw it coming. But he recovered fast and went on to finish strong. Had all his wits about him. That's the only person who has ever legitimately rocked him some.

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    This one you will see it in real time and see how fast he recovered and went on to get hit more, but come back and rock Corley.
     
  3. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    staright left is the punch best against him. You really cant see it that much because he doesnt flght alot of southpaws
     
  4. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is why it's laughable to hear people say that if Floyd gets tagged and hurt, he'll start running. He just does not have a history of getting discouraged after getting tagged.
     
  5. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    What everyone seems to miss in regard to FMJ, is there is no ONE punch that is going to consistently beat his defense.
    Why?
    Because he is a master at making in-fight adjustments both offensively and defensively. Not only that, but the thing that is ALWAYS overlooked when analyzing his potential opponents' ability to defeat him is that they need to have a superb DEFENSE as well as offense to do so.
    Why?
    Since FMJ is so adept at making offensive and defensive adjustments for whatever style is in front of him, he always manages to neutralize his opponents' offensive gameplan which forces them to rely on their defense until they can restrategize. The problem for his opponents is that they don't have the ability to do that well enough to conquer FMJ's ability to do so.
    EXAMPLE #1: Zab Judah's speed and offensive prowess gave FMJ trouble early in their fight, but once FMJ adjusted and neutralized what Zab was doing offensively, Zab was forced to rely on his defense until he could come up with an answer. Obviously he couldn't do it, because FMJ was able to hit Zab at will for most of the remainder of the bout.
    EXAMPLE #2: ODLH was able to trouble FMJ with jabs and effective aggression early, but once FMJ adjusted, taking away ODLH's jab and neutralizing his aggression, ODLH was forced to rely on his defense until he could come up with something else. Once again, although ODLH's defense was more solid than Zab's, ODLH was unable to use his defense to neutralize FMJ, thus, another victory for FMJ.
    EXRTRA POINT: For the above reasons and my opinion that Pac-Man's defense is not superb (only his offense is superb), I predict a UD win for FMJ over Pac-Man.
     
  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, the right arms covers either the body or the face, depending where he thinks a punch is coming.
     
  7. D_XZ

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    Mayweathers crablike stance makes it difficult to reach him with straight rights and hooks even before he makes a move to defend from them. When they try they often have to stretch out which gives Floyd openings for his counters.

    He does get caught with the odd jab but any other distance punch is generally protected against. I can only see an outside puncher getting though on a regular basis if he had superior speed, phenominal workrate and either a fast, pole axe jab or straight left lead if southpaw. As such Pac could be the man.

    However, prior to the Hatton fight the best chance of beating him was supposed to be someone who could cut the ring off, get in close and work on the inside of Floyds defence - which is why many pundits tipped Hatton to pull an upset prior to their fight. In the end Floyds supposed weakness turned out not to exist as he pretty much negated Hattons inside work which Hatton did get to use at several points in the fight despite Cortez being a bit quick to step in on many occasions.

    If Floyd really does have any vulnerability l guess it's really a case of believe it when/if you see it.
     
  8. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    THE STRAIGHT RIGHT HAND set up by the feint left hand. Watch the Sosa fight for proof. (I posted vid in a thread I made a while back). Ironically, Floyd showed he possessed a tremendous jab which essentially won him the fight.

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  9. JayK

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    He counters right jabs with straight rights, left jabs with right hooks. Ask DLH. And going to Mayweather's body is useless. Castillo couldn't slow Mayweather down with the body attack and neither could Judah.
     
  10. JayK

    JayK New Member Full Member

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    When's the last time Floyd got hit consistently with the straight right?

    Floyd's defense has improved every fight. Punches that he took in earlier fights don't land anymore. He works on his defense like other guys work on their offense.
     
  11. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah. I think going to the body is useless against Floyd.. I think pAC definitely provides a much different and difficult pressure done by Castillo. Floyd sees all those punches if being pinned on the ropes (Hoya case also). Im not sure IF fLOYD will see a lightning quick straight from Pac, plus a 12 punch combo. Pac will be able to score 4 points before Floyd can reply with 2..
     
  12. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1/3 of his defense is also his quick cat like reflexes that can counter you which makes his opponents quit throwing punches. Floyd loves to left hook over str8s and shoot right hands over jabs. His ability to lean and counter just out of his opponent's range makes him a very tough to beat and even harder to win a decision.
     
  13. smitty_son408

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    The point is no one has had the mental capacity to keep using the correct tactics i.e. the video. Though it is true that Floyd has the uncanny ability to adjust during and has several dimensions to his defense other than the shoulder roll, which Pac may not even see to be honest. I believe he walks the smaller man down from the high guard countering with his jab and left hook setting up his straight right hand, same sequence for 12 rounds.
     
  14. Marnoff

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    This isn't the amateurs. You don't get points based on cleanly landed punches.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Go look it up, he fought the top two when he entered the weight class.