Mayweather's Fight Night Weight?

For the first time ever he let himself be weighed against Ortiz...

was at 150 if I remember correctly, or right at 147 I forget but it was really close to WW limit.

Oh, and he looking diesel, and the way he TKO'd Ortiz I think this mother****er on something, he wasn't KO;ing no one at WW minus the hatton incident there is something fishy here...

 

Its a picture. Different picture, different looks. Especially when you see one before and after a workout. Muscles are pumped up with blood when working out. It makes you "bigger" looking.

I prefer video footage...especially when he is standing next to others. And even video makes you look bigger. So its best to see him in person.

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Seems the same to me.

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It's called knocking a guy out when he is not prepared to take a punch. It makes a World of difference. That and he is sitting down on his punches like he used to do below WW. He has to. He doesn't have the leg/agility/stamina to dance around and pot-shot like he used to. It's like Ali post-exile.

Didn't you notice the punches he did land on Ortiz didn't have dramatic effect. It wasn't until Ortiz's guard was down that he got clipped. That's why people threw a fit.


The Punch(es) that hurt you the most are the punches you are not prepared for; the punches you don't see coming.

 

Ortiz's is a good actor, cause his face was starting to look like trash after just 4 rounds.

 

Floyd has pop. Always has. Especially when he sits down on his punches. Hatton found that out.

But as far as Ortiz and the punches landed by Floyd, they weren't dropping him. Floyd did up his punch volume in this match which is refreshing.
They got Ortiz's attention but they weren't going to take him down like we saw the last two did. Maybe later in the fight with accumulation but not that early.
Why? because the last two he wasn't prepared to take.

And Ortiz isn't a guy known for his chin. Cotto isn't either. Decent for both; but not great.

 

I'm sorry, I'm definitely not arguing that. But my point is, that those shots were hurting Ortiz. Either that, or he was too stupid to register the damage that was accumulating in that short time frame.

 

But do you see the difference with Floyd over the years?

he is more powerful, like Ali was, when he sits down on his punches. He goes back and forth with what he wants to do. But especially now, he has to sit down on his punches. He had to do it with Shane as well as some others prior to that at WW. His legs aren't there where he can just dance and pot-shot like he used to and not have to worry about using full force. He is forced to throw with more force into a punch.

Fighters generally don't unload with full power; specifically with every punch. Specifically "boxers" like Floyd when you have the skill-set to just box a guy.
They only unload with power when they have to. In this case with Floyd, he has had to in order to gain respect from his opponents. Especially fighters that are aggressive.
If he doesn't, they'll walk right through him.

As far as "hurting" Ortiz...Ortiz isn't some granite chin tough guy. He has been down in sparring several times and has been hurt and down in fights. He wasn't serously hurt until Floyd got him with two clean punches that struck him when he wasn't prepared.
The accumulation however would have gotten to him. And any punch that got through his guard as the fight went on that he couldn't see coming. That's something Floyd has always been good at: catching you with punches you don't see coming.

Floyd did briefly hurt Oscar in an exchange. He's always had power when forced to use it.

 

Uncle Roger said that he is the sharpest that he's seen Floyd in quite some time. His last foray into 154, Floyd was literally going up two weight divisions to fight Oscar. Floyd will likely be the bigger man in addition to being faster. Floyd is going to make a statement on May 5th.

 

I really don't know why you're going through all of this explanation. I already know all of this. Though I disagree with this silly "his legs are gone" argument.

And of course Ortiz wasn't seriously hurt until he got KO'd. But he did have an almost 20lbs functional weight advantage on fight night. Just saying.

 

Legs aren't "Gone."

I compared them to a post-exile Ali. Ali said his legs had strength but what they didn't have was the agility/speed/STAMINA to dance the full fight like he once was able to do. Not that it was gone but comparing the difference to what they were at his peak vs. now. they are declined in these attributes. that's how I see Floyd now. Post-exile Ali.

And if you want

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of how Floyd's legs used to be for speed, agility, and stamina...watch his fights below WW. Even his all around speed is faster back then. Even his upper-body movement. But that's expected. He was younger, fresher and lighter...and more active.

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If you look at the fights where he sat down and punched, even below WW, he brutalized his opponents compared to his normal dancing around and pop shot flurry type style.

Gatti got brutalized this way.

 

i doubt that floyd would be bigger on fight night. scary though what a slightly bigger floyd and more filled in the weight would be though. i really think this fight could end late by ko. floyd's power is underrated.

 

I understand that. But if you look at the Chavez fight for example. He fought almost the exact way he fights now. Not a ton of lateral movement, standing his ground more. In the pocket, inside, hitting with crisp counters. Parts of the Augstus fight were the same.

I'm definitely not saying he's as agile as his prime, that's foolish to say. But his leg movement in the Marquez fight showed that he still has the stamina in his legs for the full 12.

 

He changes up how he fights. Always has. However, I am looking at all his WW fights, especially recent ones and looking further back to all his other fights and not just specific ones.

He has the stamina to go the full 12. No question. However, I'm being specific and picky. I haven't seen him have the same exact ability that he had at his peak. Not to dance with speed in an out at the same rate or distance. He does subtle movements now which is actually all you need. And even those aren't as fast. Fast compared to everyone else but that's like Jordan type stuff. Skinny Jordan in the early years was unreal but still great later on.


Even with Hatton...I didn't think Floyd was the same "exact" fighter anymore.

Not like his fights against Carlos Gerena, Gregorio Vargas, Chico, etc.
He was lightning.

 

He looks to be in tip top shape!

I say he is 150.5 on the weigh in day.