Mayweathers "natural size"

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  1. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd is giving Marquez $600K because he's a "humanitarian". That's more than what the whole undercard's fought for.
     
  2. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do agree that Floyd used his reach advantage. Hence, size does matter.

    It's the same as Wlad using his jabs (a lot) since he always has reach advantage against his opponents. That is basically a size advantage.
     
  3. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, not really. Floyd has fairly long arms for a guy of his size, much like Mosely. In fact, Mosely had longer arms than Margarito, despite being the smaller man in stature. Reach and size are not the same thing. Not even close to the same thing.
     
  4. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking then when you say size advantage? Are you talking about the weight advantage only?
     
  5. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe the reach advantage was HUGE in this fight. PBF was able to jab like crazy, and the extra weight made those jabs HURT. It was extremely difficult for JMM to get inside all night long. PBF may be more skilled, I don't know, but he's at least AS skilled. Add that reach and weight and it made a huge difference in this fight.
     
  6. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    No. Pacman is not a flyweight because he didn't fight the majority of his career there.

    You moron.
     
  7. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    How many times has PBF been the smaller fighter in the ring reach wise? Even going back to 135, he was quite often the smaller fighter in the ring - how come he was able to dominate the same way he dominated this fight?

    Reach was an advantage well used by Mayweather, but he doesn't fight in the Klitschko way of using the jab to hold the opponent at bay - lets see Wlad land lead right hands at will.
     
  8. marzblkman

    marzblkman Active Member Full Member

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    Great post. The excuse for a Williams fight is that Williams will be weight drained and I personally don't believe Wililams can make '47. In the Quintana fight I one thing Carlos did very well was get in between Paul's punches. I'm sure Floyd could figure out that same game plan.

    Paul's active but he doesn't have good defense and he's not accurate. I do believe though that is a VERY intriguing style match up.
     
  9. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tell me were he fought then when he was a Young Man like PBF.

    Im no Moron just telling it like it is.

    Deal with it.


    2001 **** Head is the last time PBF fought at 130. Thats a Decade.
     
  10. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pbf Fought 25 fights at 130.

    All before the age of 23 years old.

    Pacman
    Fought 28 Fights at or below Flyweight 115.

    All before the age of 20 years of age.

    Now these are the stats.

    PBF

    25 Fights at 130
    5 Fights at 135
    3 Fights at 140
    5 Fights at 147
    1 Fight at 154

    PAC

    28 Fights at or below 115
    10 Fights at 122
    5 Fights at 126
    8 Fights at 130
    1 Fight at 135
    1 Fight at 140
    1 Fight at 145
     
  11. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    If pbf is a natural superfeatherweight than pac is a natural flyweight
     
  13. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats my Point Boom.
     
  14. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather couldnt even make 140 if his life depended on it. Let alone 144Ibs.
     
  15. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    You obviously do not understan that as fighters grow older, their frame grows bigger as well, that is not only their muscle mass, but their bone structure. As the growth centers of the long bone ceases to grow lengthwise, it tends to grow thicker, thus people become stockier.

    If your logic has any substance whatsoever, then Mayweather has to weigh in at 130 during fight time and could baloon to whatever weigh he wants to after that. But trying to squeeze to 130 would be impossible.

    a 130 pounder who grew naturally to 147 has many advantage against a fighter like JMM who gas to bulk up to reach 147. For one, the bone structure, or if you would like it foundation, is not big for that weight. Mayweather has a proportional growth in terms of bone structure and muscle mass as compared to a JMM who basically had to just increase muscle mass.

    Bulking up also makes you slower, regardless how you cut it. Bulking exercises are achieved in body building by slow, heavy weights in small repitions. This makes the slow-twitch muscle become hypertrophied or bigger, whereas, if you want to be faster, small weights, fast repitions, with increased numebr of rep[itions is the norm. So when a smaller fighter like JMM has to bulk up (which showed him lifting boulders and tossing it - typical of small reptitions, heavy weigts), he losses some of his speed. He gained power, but he will loss speed.