Mayweather's reluctance to throw punches while on the ropes

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is a bit more sophisticated. Pac is no face first brawler

    Pac will try to outhustle Floyd than move out of range to avoid counters.
     
  2. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most, if not all, of these guys could only be effective on the ropes. If they keep it up for 12 rounds, they may earn themselves a loss but a close split decision, as past fights have shown. Imagine someone who can be effective on the ropes and in the center of the ring...
     
  3. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd hasn't yet faced an opponent with fast feet who can avoid those counters since the last 6 years. Maybe more. Most of the time, they're so slow foot speed wise that they're just there to hit and Floyd isn't.

    Pacquiao has faster foot speed than Floyd. It's going to be uh-mazing to see how Floyd reacts.
     
  4. Jobo1878

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    :lol:

    The next Manny Steward here.
     
  5. ad23

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    Yeh personally I think the best shot beating Mayweather is getting him on the ropes as well and throwing and beating him to the jab, once they forget about the jab it's all over.

    DLH did this beautifully when he fought Floyd and in my opinion came the closest to beating Mayweather. He landed some solid jabs, and when he came in with them he followed with combos on the ropes which worked pretty well. As well as that whenever he disrupted Floyd's combos with a jab it usually followed with his own combos. With the right timing even the sharpest of boxers can be hit or at the very least disrupted while they are throwing their own combos. Especially a defensive fighter like Floyd, if you stop him while he's punching he will usually retreat and that's when you go in.

    Who knows though! I think Manny has a great shot if he attacks in a smart and effective way, he can't just be wild. He can't let Floyd figure out his attack.

    PS - thanks for a logical response! i love conversations like this
     
  6. ad23

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    It's not the moving out of range that Manny has to be concerned, it's how he comes in with his shots in my opinion. Perfect example was against Marquez, he got caught coming in and paid the price. I'm not saying Floyd will knock him out, but if Floyd figures out what Manny does every time he steps it's going to be a challenge.
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is not gonna easy for Floyd to pick off Pac when he comes in.Pac has power and quick hands, expect Floyd to play it safe and go into a shell.

    Later in the fight, that may change and Floyd might do adjustments
     
  8. ad23

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    Exactly right, that's what I mean when I say Manny can't be too wild. I'm predicting the first few rounds to go Manny's way but hopefully he can keep his attack smart and mix it up.

    Good responses! Thanks man, it's nice to chat about the actual fight rather than discussing all the dramas around it haha.
     
  9. TheDarkLord

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    I've noticed Floyd instinctively going into the shell vs south paws. If Pac makes him fight at pace Floyd will do that a lot. If he has no time to think his reflexes will betray him.
     
  10. abuffy

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    I've noticed this as well. In all instances of being caught by southpaws, it's usually because of this. Mayweather is going to have his hands full. For Pacquiao, fighting against orthodox fighters come naturally to him. He doesn't have to think twice. For Mayweather, since he's fought so few southpaws, it doesn't come naturally. So, he's going to have to focused and thinking about his foot positioning 3 minutes of every round. This is also while he's trying to concentrate on his body position, timing, reflexes, countering, and adjustment to Pacquiao's speed and awkward angles all at the same time.

    That is so tough, man. Pacquiao's speed just makes everything so difficult. Not just hand speed wise, but his pace. It forces you to have to think quicker and if Floyd's already trying to remember/concentrate on all the other things at once, it's going to be hard. When it's too much, he'll fall onto instinct...and unfortunately, his instincts may put him in trouble sometimes against Pacquiao- like the example of him falling into the philly shell instinctively.
     
  11. abuffy

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    You're welcome, lol. They are rare and few to come by on this forum, so I savor every moment.
     
  12. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol Pac gets hit repeatedly by Bradley, Marquez and Algieri but is too quick for Mayweather to counter? Some of these comments really amaze me. Hurry up May 2. No excuses!!
     
  13. abuffy

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    Opponents' landing % for past 3 fights

    Pacquiao
    Algieri 23%, Marquez 21%, Bradley Rematch 21%.

    Mayweather
    Maidana Rematch 22%, Maidana 26%, Canelo 22%



    Pacquiao is a lot harder to hit than you, or anyone, give him credit for.
     
  14. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't give much credence to that punchstat c rap. I go by what I see. Mayweather will land easily on Pac, you can believe that.
     
  15. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, when the quantitative data proves you wrong, ignore it and resort to your biased eyes.

    Thank you for discrediting yourself and allowing me to exit this conversation.