Mayweather's reluctance to throw punches while on the ropes

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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol Who am I going to believe, the punchstats or my lying eyes? I seek no acceptance from you. You don't know what you are talking about half the time, are all over the place with your comments and I still am not convinced that you are not a boxing_master alt.
     
  2. ko00

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    I think as much as you are all trying to be unbiased in these breakdowns your not giving floyd enough credit your talking like he is going to be a stationary target for manny to throw these punches from angles left right middle

    come on mosley moved after getting KD and made manny look garbage cotto moved in the mid rounds and had much better success I mean these are 2 off the top of my head now he is facing a guy who is a master and getting himself out of trouble and when he gets caught lessening the blows of course pac will have success he is a great fighter but he is not going to overwelm floyd he will have his spots and likewise mayweather I see floyd eeking out a SD all this **** of manny coming in like some 300mph whirlwind is bull**** he doesnt fight like that anymore he was careful as hell vs rios for god sake now he picks his shots he is going to have to think and trying to outthink floyd isnt going to work over 12 rounds
     
  3. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5OH6p_g-Hs

    And before you discredit this dude, know that he would beat Rios.

    Careful and picks shots, huh...
     
  4. ko00

    ko00 Active Member Full Member

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    why are you showing the algieri fight? you claim he would beat rios thats not a fact its an opinion... anyway against algieri manny was sloppy as hell there videos going around of the terrible balance he showed in that fight ect ect come on algieri is a kickboxer with a university level trainer in his corner

    you know what I hope manny comes in looking like he does in that fight because he will get picked apart if he uses his head he will come in like the rios fight but you all think he is going to come in and blast floyd in 5 6 rounds wake up man

    EDIT 4.38 of that video watch it ..pathetic
     
  5. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1) If Algieri can outbox RUSLAN PROVODNIKOV with one eye then he can outbox Rios.

    2) Algieri had 0 power. None. So, Pacquiao wasn't afraid to come in wildly. Algieri couldn't hurt him. Pac will approach the Mayweather fight much different because Mayweather can punch.

    3) Terrible balance... I've heard this one since Morales 1. It's because he's slipping out of such weird angles that causes him to be unbalanced. And to be honest, it causes his opponents more trouble than it has ever caused him.
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1) You're over-rating Ruslan. Ruslan is a gate keeper at 140 pounds, not even a champion. You are doing this (over-rating Ruslan) on purpose to prop up Algieri because he was a Pacquiao opponent, and an extremely weak opponent to choose.

    2) Triangle theories don't mean ****. Just because Algieri beat Ruslan, doesn't mean he beats Rios. That's just BS.

    3) Yes, Pacquiao has terrible balance and footwork issues. Deal with it. Just because you do something with wrong technique, and don't get caught on it, doesn't mean it still isn't wrong technique. It just means you're getting away with mistakes. The other guy has to be good enough to capitalize on the mistakes as well. Just look at his recent competition and you'll see why your 3rd comment is hilariously ignorant. Pacquiao has been fighting light touches and has been handled very carefully by his management team. Total fraud job that will be exposed in less than a month.


    Fact: 6 of Pacquiao's 10 fights at 147 pound were against "unranked opposition" at the time he fought them.

    Fact: Pacquiao has only fought 2 guys at 147 who were coming off a win at 147: Bradley (who beat Marquez for his FIRST WIN at 147 against ANYBODY WHO HAD ACTUALLY WON A SINGLE FIGHT AT 147) and Cotto (He had narrowly beat Clottey and Pac used a CW). Every other opponent was either NOT RANKED at 147, or not coming off a win.
     
  7. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not using a triangular theory. Styles make fights. Rios and Ruslan are similar in style, ok? Plodders. Boxer beats plodder, Algieri is a boxer. I could even see him beating Maidana! You all just throw him under the bus because how bad he looked against Pacquiao, but heck, everyone looks bad against Pacquiao except for Marquez.

    I hope Ruslan beats Matthysse. Come back to me with "overrated" then, please.

    And here we go again with the bad footwork, lol. Ok. I prefer this footwork. It's much harder to deal with Pacquiao's footwork from an opponent's viewpoint than "technically sound" footwork. This will give Mayweather fits. He's never experienced footwork like this and it will take time to adjust. Hopefully, not too long or he may find himself too little too late and down on the scorecards.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do61EjeftB4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aIwawqEGSQ

    Pay attention to the feet, for the second one, specifically 3:19 and on.

    His start-stop is so good, his feints, just everything. Oh my gosh. That has to be a mind **** to deal with, along with everything else Pacquiao brings.
     
  8. BewareofDawg

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    Maidana is more skilled and faster than Ruslan, also his punches are awkward as hell how they loop up and around and over the shoulder. He'd destroy Algieri. Algieri would have nothing for him.

    I also classify both Provodnikov and Maidana as "Plodder" or "brawler" or however people describe it. But that is a very vague classification. Their similarities in styles end at they like to move forward, throw punches and don't seem to be bothered by getting hit back. Their approaches, footwork, punch selection are all very different.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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