Mayweather's Resume

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  1. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well in his earlier years, he wasn't really making the big bucks he thought he deserved. So back between 1998-2005, he was calling out anyone and everyone.

    he called out Naseem Hamed after the CHico fight, he called out Joel casamayor and Frietas MULTIPLE times, and he called out the great Kostya a few times as well.

    When he campaigned at LW, he was calling out Shane Mosley and DLH who were both fighting at 154 and said he'd fight either of them at 147. Once again, he was calling out all of these guys because of the paydays that would be attached to those bouts. It didn't seem like any of those guys had ANY interest in fighting him in his younger years as he was viewed as a High Risk/Low Reward type of fighter back than. he just didn't bring a big enough fanbase at the time to be considered a PPV or "a-side" star.

    Since taking over the mantle as the PPV King, he's been more judicious with his opponent selections. The guys that he didn't fight that i would've enjoyed seeing him fight were Margarito, Paul Williams, Manny pacquiao and Sergio Martinez at 154.

    He didn't take the Margs fight because the payday for that bout (8 million) matched the amount he was offered to take on Baldomir who was at the time the undisputed WW champion of the world (after he beat Judah.) So FLoyd had much more to gain fighting Baldomir compared to Margarito at the time.

    The only 3 fights I would've really loved to see would've been FLoyd against pacman (obviously,) against Martinez at 154 and Paul Williams at 147. Those 3 fights, espeically the Pacman fight, would've really catapulted him legacy-wise.

    Luckily for him though, pacman is still one of the best p4P fighters in the sport and both men still look like they have plenty left in the tank. The fight can still be made, even though it's a few years too late, and it will still smash all the records- it would be similar to when Hagler took on Ray Leonard in 1987 when both of those men should've probably fought back in 1982 or 1983 but couldn't due to SRL's retina issues.
     
  2. M.3

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    I asked this same thing a while back and really got no reply.. I wondered the same thing.. Who should Floyd have fought, when would it be possible, and who did he fight instead...
     
  3. Enigmadanks

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    There's no argument to be made about the Margs fight.

    Margarito wasn't that well known back in the mid 2000's. The only decent wins on his resume were against Kermit Cintron and a young, green Sergio Martinez. Margarito was only known to the hardcore boxing fans and at the time I don't even think he held any part of the WW title.

    Floyd's options at the time, and this was right after beating Judah was to either fight Baldomir for the undisputed lineal WW championship for 8 million dollars or a non-title fight against Margarito for 8 million (same exact payday.) I don't blame him one bit that he went for Baldomir instead, that fight had a much greater incentive for FLoyd as it allowed him to pick up his 3rd lineal championship at the time.
     
  4. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Great resume and fought everybody expect for Pacquiao. People talk about Margarito but Margarito was a nobody and had a tranklet belt.

    Nobody else to fight
     
  5. I Know Everythi

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    you can post all the ratings, p4p rankings, wbc rankings you want, that doesnt change the fact that Corrales Castillo Canelo Hatton Hernandez Chavez Manfredy Corley Gatti Judah Baldomir Maidana Canelo NEVER in their life EVER beat one boxer that was elite and in their prime.

    you think p4p rankings make a great fighter? Why was a bum like Corrales coming off of wins over nobodies like Manfredy and Juuko, but placed ahead of Bernard Hopkins and Lennox Lewis? Why was briner in the top 10 before the Maidana fight? why is canelo in there with his best win squeaking past Trout?

    it does not change the fact that Marquez was immediately coming up 2 weight classes and Mayweather had a massive size advantage

    it does not change that Oscar was 2-2 for his last 4 (plus a robbery vs Sturm) and well past his prime. Cotto was plaster leftovers. Mosley was almost 40 and quadruple leftovers from Vernon+Winky.

    there are 4 belts per class and all those extra fake belts so there are many more "world champions" to fight compared to the real eras. "world champion" does not mean a great win

    those fake rankings don't prove his competition or Pacquiaos is anything close to all time great
     
  6. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Are you a fool?? Now of those fighters never beat an Elitle boxer??

    Castillo and Corrlaes was KO everybody in there weight class dummy!! Corrlaes beat 33 bums uh??? :patsch:patsch

    Canelo had just beat Trout who beat a HOF'mer in Cotto his last fight before cyou clown!

    YDKSAB :hi::hi:
     
  7. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only guy you mentioned is trout beating the formerly elite cotto. Disregarding that cotto is well past his prime after the pac and plaster beatdowns

    Corrales, the guy who needed a controversial decision to get past casamayor and dominated by clottey - pac mans tomato can - is somehow elite?

    And no I don't think pacquiao is great either so don't start the pac Floyd Debate
     
  8. Green Man

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    Too many what if's.

    What if he fought:

    Casamayor
    Freitas
    Johnston
    Tszyu
    Williams
    prime Mosley
    prime Cotto
    Wright
    Forrest
    Margarito
    Pacquiao

    Its a good resume but far from being as good as the TS and his fellow *****s make it out to be.
     
  9. KillSomething

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    Comments in quote. At one point I looked up all the fighters who shared portions of the title with Mayweather in each weight class. Took some time. Not sure if I posted it. Shows a clear pattern of Floyd moving up in weight, 'retiring,' or just plain ducking when faced with guys like Casamayor, Freitas, Spadafora, Cotto, Tszyu, Hatton, Mosley, Margarito, Williams, and of course Pacquiao. So I look at his resume in light of who he wasn't fighting when he chose guys like Sosa, Ndou, Corley, Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, and Ortiz.

    His best wins are De la Hoya, Mosley, and Cotto. Their combined record after fighting Floyd is 3(0)-5(2)-1. The wins are against Stevie Forbes, Pablo Cesar Cano, and Delvin Rodriguez. What I am saying is that those guys were shot. Two of them were there for Mayweather earlier in their careers, but he didn't fight them then.

    His second best wins are against JMM and Alvarez. JMM was moving up 2 divisions, and Alvarez was at a catchweight (and we have no idea what he'll go on to accomplish).

    Simply put the guy's resume is pretty bad. Lots of names. Lots of titles. Lots of smoke and mirrors. Lots of wins that have an asterix next to them. Lots of missing names.
     
  10. M.3

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    Impossible to leave out Oscar.. To be where he is now he had to take out the moneymaker..
     
  11. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe resume better than Floyd Gayweather
     
  12. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    overhyped resume, floyd in the top 50 atg is questionable.o
     
  13. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd retires everytime there's a threat..
     
  14. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Found it:

    These are not just guys in the same division...they're TITLEHOLDERS. You may notice that Floyd usually focused on the weakest titleholders and avoided better ones.

    Most notable ducks were:
    Casamayor (130)
    Freitas (130)
    Spadafora (135)
    Hatton (140)
    Tszyu (140)
    Cotto (140/147)
    Margarito (147)
    Williams (147)
    Pacquiao (147)
     
  15. thekid

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    Floyd tried to make half of those fights, the fact they didn't get made is not his fault