Mayweather's Resume

twofear · May 26, 2014

The Shockmaster said: ↑

ok man....listen

is floyd a full time 154 fighter? does he not go back and fight at 147?

yes i agree with you about the oscar fight being CW fight masked as a 147 fight.....but it is what it is...its a 147lb fight....and pac fought there...then went down to 140 then came back up to 147 for a belt and asked for a catch

its convenient for the argument to say the oscar fight was really a catch fight masked....so it works for you...but take it a face value and manny asking cotto violated the definition of the catchweight too....

in reality though...i think if you are upset over the definition of the CW being violated.....you prob have other issues and take things too seriously man....its just a weigh in number.....
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man you are hopeless, it doesn't matter if he is a full time 154'r or not what matter is he is a legit 154 champ. i leave you alone with this i am done with you :good

box4life11 · May 26, 2014

I wonder if Floyd will face his mandatory in Thurman

O wait he doesn't sell lol

The Shockmaster · May 26, 2014

box4life11 said: ↑

I wonder if Floyd will face his mandatory in Thurman

O wait he doesn't sell lol
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what does it matter to you

if floyd fights thurman and wins 8-4 theyll say "thurman isnt that good"....."thurman was too green"......

if thurman gives floyd a close/tough fight and floyd wins 7-5...itll just be "floyd got exposed by a young lion......thurman was robbed...haha omg floyd sucks"

basically alot of you guys hate the guy so much im shocked you even watch him fight...or want to talk about a guy who is such a coward.....most of you will never appreciate or ever be happy with anything he does.....why even waste your time?

acie2g · May 26, 2014

progamer said: ↑

i thought the belts dont meant **** these days. ah, *****logic i get it.

idiot. if he is accused of cherry pickign, beating those cherrypicked champions means ****.

so he has done a me too accomplishment. great.

against who? ah nvm.:rofl:hi:

pedjr = **** legacy.

good salesman though.

i give him credit where credit is due.:deal

btw, do you agree trex carralez was his best win? funny but, was he?
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I don't understand how one fighter can be a beast yet the guy who destroyed him is a cherry pick I do but I don't as far as best win no I don't think Corrales is his best win most visually entertaining maybe but wins over Castillo, Hoya, Alvarez.ect I'd rate over the Corrales just to name a few.

Thing about it though is a cherry pick for Mayweather is most fighters best win. Maidana, Guerrero, Alvarez, & Cotto would be top wins on every fighter between WW and JMW Cotto is Pacquiao's best win Martinez is fighting Cotto two years after Mayweather and he just said Cotto will be the best he's been in with.

The Pacquiao fight is really the only fight I can think of the 100% absolutely should have happen and like I said earlier Mayweather told Pacquiao in 09' he gets pick of ring, gloves, top billing, enter as champ, 50/50 split, weight penalty an everything Pacquiao wanted and he still said no what more can you do.

Vanboxingfan · May 26, 2014

Collie said: ↑

Alvarez - 8/10. I think this is win is actually under-rated. People said Floyd wouldn't fight Canelo etc, then afterwards he became something of a hypejob. I think Mayweather exposing Canelo's weaknesses was to his credit. Catch-weight was a bit of a draw back, I think he could have beaten him the same way at 154.

Guerrero - 6/10. This fight went as expected. Guerrero was coming off a good win and was one of the top WW's on recent achievement at the time, although I feel he was just never very good in the first place: Average title-holder at best.

Cotto - 7.5/10. I don't think Cotto has been the same since Margarito and Pac losses and wasn't hadn't done much to earn the title at 154. Cotto would have been a bigger win a few years earlier but still decent, although it was one of the times Mayweather hasn't looked invincible.

Ortiz - 5/10. Ortiz was a poor opponent really, in similar way to Guerrero was in the right place at the right time (titlist coming off a win vs the over-rated Berto). Mayweather did what he had to do but this does little for his legacy.

Mosley - 8/10. Again, maybe it could have been a better win a year or 2 earlier but it was basically a near shut-out vs a HOF guy past peak but coming off a very impressive win. Mayweather also showed good he could weather a storm well in round 2.

JMM - 8.5/10. This fight is the embodiment of what may haunt Mayweather in terms of legacy. He dominated an ATG in a brilliant performance but he brought him up 2 weight classes and cheated him on the scales. It certainly wasn't the best version of JMM, and I feel Mayweather would beat any version of JMM so its a pity the win comes with something of a question-mark over it (similar to Canelo's catchweight, for example.)

Hatton - 8.5/10. Hatton was a very good win, a KO over an undefeated champ. Struggled somewhat (by his relative high standards) early but adapted well.

De La Hoya - 8/10. Doesn't get higher because it was one of Mayweather's closest fights, but it was certainly a good win. De La Hoya was probably past best and it could be argued had lost his 3 of his last 4 fights (BHop, Strum, Mosely). But it was a win vs a not shot HOF at Mayweather's highest weight class.

Baldomir - 6/10. Not one of Mayweather's best opponents but he won easily.

Judah - 7/10. Great example of Mayweather adapting. Also the disparity in mental strength and smartness was visible here, as Judah was as fast as Mayweather but couldn't match him elsewhere after the first few rounds.

Mitchell - 5/10. Possibly Mayweather's worst opponent of the list.

Gatti - 7/10. Great performance by Floyd over a fan favourite but one who was never near the same level of Mayweather. One of Mayweather's best performances, not one of his 'best' opponents.
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To me these are highly inflated evaluations, at least for some of the fighters.

Mosley is no where near a 8/10 he was basically a shot fighter, I'd say a 7/10 is more accurate.

JMM never even fought at that weight before (AFAIK) so how can he rate so high, given all the reach advantages, age advantage and over all size advantage. At best this too is about a 7/10.

Hatton was never a great fighter by anyone's estimation, again a more realistic rating would be at best a 7.5

De la Hoya in is prime would likely beat Mayweather or come very close to it. The version that Mayweather fought wasn't close to prime and it showed as he slowed down in the later rounds (a problem he's had during his whole career) but an 8/10, I don't think so, again it's more like a 7-7.5/10 and yes he was shot, relative to where he was in his prime.

Code Red · May 26, 2014

Vanboxingfan said: ↑

To me these are highly inflated evaluations, at least for some of the fighters.

Mosley is no where near a 8/10 he was basically a shot fighter, I'd say a 7/10 is more accurate.

JMM never even fought at that weight before (AFAIK) so how can he rate so high, given all the reach advantages, age advantage and over all size advantage. At best this too is about a 7/10.

Hatton was never a great fighter by anyone's estimation, again a more realistic rating would be at best a 7.5

De la Hoya in is prime would likely beat Mayweather or come very close to it. The version that Mayweather fought wasn't close to prime and it showed as he slowed down in the later rounds (a problem he's had during his whole career) but an 8/10, I don't think so, again it's more like a 7-7.5/10 and yes he was shot, relative to where he was in his prime.
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Oscar even in his prime slowed in later rounds, ask Tito, Mosley, Sturm

box4life11 · May 26, 2014

The Shockmaster said: ↑

what does it matter to you

if floyd fights thurman and wins 8-4 theyll say "thurman isnt that good"....."thurman was too green"......

if thurman gives floyd a close/tough fight and floyd wins 7-5...itll just be "floyd got exposed by a young lion......thurman was robbed...haha omg floyd sucks"

basically alot of you guys hate the guy so much im shocked you even watch him fight...or want to talk about a guy who is such a coward.....most of you will never appreciate or ever be happy with anything he does.....why even waste your time?
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I'm a big Thurman fan that's why I care and it must make you sad that Floyd just had close fight with a guy that ducked Thurman

Not to mention he made Maidana wear the highest padding gloves Everlast makes unexpectedly 24 hours before the fight lmao

Farmboxer · May 27, 2014

Why not have a rematch with the woman Void beat up? Void fought her with bare knuckles, did she wear 24 oz. gloves?

M.3 · May 27, 2014

Vanboxingfan said: ↑

To me these are highly inflated evaluations, at least for some of the fighters.

Mosley is no where near a 8/10 he was basically a shot fighter, I'd say a 7/10 is more accurate.

JMM never even fought at that weight before (AFAIK) so how can he rate so high, given all the reach advantages, age advantage and over all size advantage. At best this too is about a 7/10.

Hatton was never a great fighter by anyone's estimation, again a more realistic rating would be at best a 7.5

De la Hoya in is prime would likely beat Mayweather or come very close to it. The version that Mayweather fought wasn't close to prime and it showed as he slowed down in the later rounds (a problem he's had during his whole career) but an 8/10, I don't think so, again it's more like a 7-7.5/10 and yes he was shot, relative to where he was in his prime.
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First off, I found it funny how you say no way near an 8 because he was 'shot' but have it a 7..

Also, it's crazy that you think those guys did about the same for his legacy.. Going by just this, Pac vs the same people would have to be 6/10 or less right?

M.3 · May 27, 2014

Farmboxer said: ↑

Why not have a rematch with the woman Void beat up? Void fought her with bare knuckles, did she wear 24 oz. gloves?
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