Mayweather's welter run: Thoughts on it?

God DAMN there is some Mayweather ownage going on in this thread.

 

They offered Margarito a fight to replace Judah, he turned in down. HBO still went with Judah after that because he was still a viable option for the rivalry they had.

And Mosley was inactive for 15, not 17. :good

 

Disappointing. Doesn't seem to want to prove himself against the biggest threats. Pre-140 he was amazing but afterwards it's dog **** compared to what he could've done.

 

It was lackluster. He took the path of least resistance. In a division that was at the time deemed the deepest in boxing, Mayweather fought, Mitchell(washed up 140 pounder), Judah, Balderthal(crude, primitive, very limited, unathletic, guy with an iron chin), Hatton (chinny 140 pounder who wasn't that good), Marquez (a great 135 pounder) and Mosely (past his prime, but still a decent opponent)

Mayweather never fought, Collazo, Quintana, Williams, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, etc. etc. All were better opponents than, Hatton, Balderthal, Judah, and Mitchell. Williams was better than Mosely back then and right now.

 

It's not a thing of me blaming him for how it played out. It just did, we cxan go back and forth but the facts remain.

who would blame him for fighting Oscar or Hatton, those are huge fights.. but Cotto, and Marg were ready at that time, willy was a contender as well as Cintron, Clottey, Collazo, Williams, Quintana, Mosley. Not that he should have faced them all. but that the welter division was so ****in deep, there was only one man missing who could have made that era GREAT..

 

There's 12 months in a year bro. It was 16 months and 1 week.

 

Yes.

He fought Margarito on 2009 January 24th

Go forward one year. 2010 January 24th.

We are at 12 months.

Feb, March, April

3 months.

Now we are at 15. And he fought him May 1st. So 15 months, 1 week.


:good

 

youre full of **** on the margarito fight

chew on this fanboy

April 25, 2006, 5:27 PM ET

Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito

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By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
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Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.
According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.
That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.
The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.
Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.
"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."
Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.
The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.
"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."
Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.
Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.
Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.
But Arum is confident they will make the deal.
"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."
Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.
Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.
"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."

 

You dumbasses still rate Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto as more then average fighters.


The Oscar that Floyd beat at his NATURAL weight would have destroyed these 2 Top Rank frauds.

 

Where am I full of ****, you posted a link after the Judah fight. atsch

Note to the bold/bigger text in your quote.


Your link even ****s your cause over though too. Arum said Mayweather would take the fight but because Arum was only offering Floyd a multi fight contract and Mayweather wanted more money to fight Hatton, Mosley, Cotto but Arum would only offer less, and Arum said the DLH was out of the picture and that fight wouldn't generate the money. So Mayweather opted to not take the fight because it meant being tied back as a Top Rank fighter which he just bought himself out of earlier in the year.

 

that same oscar is the one that roach said that could not pull the trigger anymore. and that oscar gassed out after 8 rounds in the floyd fight that enabled floyd to win.

 

YEah as to why he threw more jabs in the last half of the fight then the first half.


Roach also said Hopkins should hang em up after CAlzaghe, then Hopkins went on to some of his greatest performances of his career.

 

punch stats, compubox?

it was roach training oscar for that fight and he knows that oscar could not pull the trigger anymore. it's far from the opinion that bhop is too old already and needs to retire. he is speaking for bhops health same as when he said he is afraid of vazquez and then proceeded to win against marquez.

 

Look it up. Posted many times.

Blah blah blah. Roach cant take defeat. His fighters loses its "time to retire". Bernard Hopkins is perfectly fine, has all his mental faculties and is in great shape. This was what 3 years ago when Roach said that nonsense.

Roach is an overrated trainer. As we see with Amir Khan. All his fighters have defensive liabilities and cant fight on the inside. When you *******s going to stop taking his words at face value?


Suffice to say Oscar beats midget Cotto and brick gloves ass.

 

Well said, especially that part