McCall vs Tyson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Sister Sledge, May 27, 2008.


  1. Blacc Jesus

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  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because they all held on and spoiled, McCall maybe more likely to engage. McCall chin maybe a little overated, lets look at the punchers he faced:

    Lennox Lewis: Lennox didnt have time to get his best shots off in the first and in the second was tentative

    Bruno - got tagged early and went into a shell. Yes he took Brunos big shot but it made him tentative to engage

    Maskeev - blasted out early

    TOS - lost took some good shots but not a supernatural chin showing

    Douglas - didnt see this 1 but Douglas isnt a massive puncher and is a coaster type
     
  3. teeto

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    Tyson ALL-DAY!!
     
  4. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Tyson - but Mccall has the ultimate chin - but I think he would do something erratic to get out of the fight - maybe break down crying or something - tyson by disqualification
     
  5. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    McCall's strength and chin would make up for the fact that he did not possess some of the 'spoiling skills' of the others you mentioned.

    It doesn't matter whether you think his chin is overrated or not it's still at least as good as Tucker or Green and they both went the distance.

    He still landed a good amount of big shots in the 2nd fight and couldn't shift McCall.

    One of the few times I ever saw McCall visibly effected by the power of another fighter. Still, McCall took the shots.

    I don't see Tyson KO'ing McCall. Sorry. He may, may, force a TKO if the referee steps in because McCall's taking too many shots but that's the only way I see the fight being stopped early. Unless McCall breaks down and refuses to defend himself ala Lewis II of course.
     
  6. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mentioned this potential fight because they were sparring partners, and even though McCall didn't have Tyson's skills, Tyson never knocked him down, but he did legitimately put Tyson on his ass. Tyson was known for ripping through his sparring partners, but he couldn't do that tho Oliver because of McCall's chin and strength. I think McCall scores and upset after Mike gets frustrated and does something to get out of the fight.
     
  7. The Kurgan

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    Tyson UD. McCall obviously had a granite chin and excllent survival skills, but wouldn't be able to come close to putting up any truly effective offence. It would be a bit like a more one-sided version of Tyson-Ruddock II, minus the knockdowns of course.
     
  8. Russell

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    Saying Bruno put McCall into a shell is misleading. McCall was beating the **** out of a, exhausted, Ruiz like Bruno the last few rounds of that fight.

    He was hit so hard by Bruno he was literally thrown half way across the ring into the ropes and he didn't look the least bit affected.

    Aware of Bruno's power? Sure.

    Cowering from it? No.
     
  9. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    But the more I think of it, the more I think Tyson would stop McCall.

    Tyson's speed and aggression, in his prime, was very difficult for the B-level fighters to deal with. I consider Oliver a B-level fighter (which is good, in my opinion, just not a champion, or great).

    Furthermore, we all know McCall has a great chin- but what about the body? Tyson could rip the body when he wanted to, and in this case, who knows, Tyson might be able to finish McCall with a furious body assult.
     
  10. The Kurgan

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    McCall was very hard to hit to the body, since he spent so much time defending it instead of his chin. When he was hit there, he showed no susceptibility to body shots. I think Tyson could give himself an easier time in the later rounds, but there would be no stoppage opportunity there.

    All of Tyson's prime opposition was B-level at best, but McCall was an exceptionally durable B-level opponent.
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    They could fight 100 times and the result is the same: Tyson UD.
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This fight almost happend, if McCall would of beat Douglas in 89, Tyson would of had to fight McCall in 90 instead of Douglas. I think this fight would of been very interesting, I think a better question the thread starter should of posed was "Would McCall of beaten the Douglas that fought Tyson that night in Tokyo"?

    I think it's a 50/50, Mccall did have the chin to stay in the match the whole night, and the right hand to keep Tyson on his toes. While didnt have the reach/Jab of Douglas, or the drive he had that night, he did have the better chin and bigger punch. I could see this one going either way, Tyson spent too much time having orgies with Japanese girls to worry about training, which makes for a pretty even fight in my book.
     
  13. The Kurgan

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    Tyson might have trained even less for McCall, given that it is very hard for a world champion to get motivated against a former sparring partner.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Imagine if McCall had upsets over Lewis AND Tyson?

    That'd be unbelievable.
     
  15. The Kurgan

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    It would be interesting to see what it would do to his standing in ATG rankings. Also, if McCall had beat Tyson, he'd have got to fight Holyfield; he'd almost certainly lose, but I imagine he'd do very well. Then again Bert Cooper wasn't too far from KO'ing the pig-headed and rash young Holyfield, while McCall hit harder and was far more durable than Cooper, so we couldn't discount McCall's chances completely. Holyfield in 1990 was still well away from his prime.