McCallum Vs Watson

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you get unduly influenced by watching certain fighters, Greg? Personally, after delving down into McCallum I hardly can stay out of the pocket when sparring. Luckily for me the Watsons at my gym are few and far between.:D
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Abit yes, I suppose its natural though. If your watching a lot of something your going to tend to imitate it.

    But normally I study fighters that are good at an area I am looking to improve on so me imitating them is sort of beneficial.

    But one thing I do think is you should never copy a fighter, yes watch them and try out some of the stuff they do. But it wont always work for you, so find the stuff that works and use it and leave the skills that dont work.

    My trainers sort of starting me back at the basics so I think I'll watch some Juan MAnuel Marquez this weekend
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't tell Lora.:D

    But you're very right of course. As been said before you seem to have a very dispassionate, rational outlook for someone your age. Hell, for any age. Competed anything lately?
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    He turned pro at about 170, aged 19.
    He was a light-heavy in the amateurs at 18.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkAE9pJ3UEk[/ame]

    maybe 147 would be too much to ask of LaMotta.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    Yeh, people say I'm sensible.

    Nah seasons finished till September, just working on things to get the best of me and get a good season next year. Was matched really hard last season, so I've learn from that now I'm looking to be beating the guys (and beating them good) that edged close ones with me last season. I honestly can't see why I can;t win the scottish next season.

    My head's all over the shop, are you boxing or you just training? I never rememebr.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just training.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Good ****.

    I've never seen how someone could motivate themselves to train hard without a fight or something coming up. The minute I retire is the minute I stop roadwork.
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah, wait until you pass 30 and the fat starts to pile up on you.:smoke With that said I only run sporadically.
     
  9. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Ring or one of its sister publications had predicted a Watson victory, saying the aging McCallum would be "smacked around" by the younger fighter.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's what one should remember with this fight. McCallum was the underdog. Some seem like they'd almost have it like McCallum beat up on this untested, ring rusty kid, but that was certainly not the view before the fight.
     
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  11. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Nah, i wouldn't say he was the underdog, but Watson did definitely have his backers at the time.

    A lot of it had to do with American sources not having paid much attention to McCallum in recent years since the loss to Kalambay(were his fights against Graham and kaalmbay rematch even independently broadcast in America?) and British parochial bias that was proved ill-thought out after the fight itself.

    Benn had got enough hype and expectation that Watson beating him was going to transfer some to him, especially for those always looking for a next big thing to bandwagon on.

    you could compare it in a sense to calzaghe vs Lacy, it's the same mixture of overlooking an older fighter and overhyping an up and comer.Watson had shown a lot more craft and ring-generalship than Lacy though, so it's easier to understand why some favoured him.

    Ultimately anyone picking the eventual loser before these fights, has no option but to admit they got it wrong and re-assess things.
     
  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The American commentators for the fight said he was. They even asked him in the interview afterwards if it had riled him being the underdog, and he said it had.
     
  13. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Certainly possible the betting odds were more in Watson's favour than i remember them.General opinion seemed to be about 60-40 for Mike though, from what i remember of the runup.
     
  14. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    I'll probably be boxing till I'm 50 though.

    I can half see why. He had the big wins over Benn and Lee.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Stopping roadwork is 1 of the worst things I've ever done, glad to have got my conditioning back now (nearing peak), never stop roadwork it'll make you feel old

    Enjoy watching Marquez but don't start dropping your right hand because of it :yep