McClines 2 year 6 fight 5-1 run from Grant-Boswell

Grant got hurt right away before the fight got going, granted he was injured by a knockdown. He also was going through a bad phase w teddy.

Briggs also looked like crap for a couple years around that time before kind of pulling it together again.

 

Don't take away from his Grant win he bombed him out with first punch. Mccline is underrated. Also missing from that list is his close, (controversial?) loss to Byrd.
Mccline was a solid heavy and i's pick him to best Wilder

 

I agree with NoNeck, in that those two wins aren't without an asterisk, but both wins showed that McCline had evolved past being the guy who looked lethargic and disinterested in drawing against Sherman Williams.

He also had a nice win against Al 'Ice' Cole. And the Boswell win impressed me because I still believe that Boswell was a talented guy who missed an opportunity to prove himself a legit world class fighter.

Either way, McCline was one of the best contender at the time he lost to Byrd. But after that fight McCline regressed in form, turning into a talented guy who was too hesitant to let his hands go. He was sort of a Mike Weaver of the 2000s in that regard.

 

Well if you would of included into a 8 fight stretch instead of 5 you could got to the Byrd encounter lol.
Mccline had very nice run and was better than both Grant and Briggs two guys you hear much more about on here than him.

 

Grant got bombed in the first by Golota but came back to win. It was a bigger shot than McCline landed. McCline was okay, but Wilder would beat him up and turn him timid. He was maybe slightly better than Breazeale, at best.

Im not sure anyone he beat was top ten.

Grant was defintiely better than McCline pre-Lewis. Briggs was more dynamic but had limits (stamina).

 

I strongly disagree. Mccline was much better than Breazale. The names on their resume are not close and his resume is better than Grant's resume plus he ko'd him in 1 round. Mccline > Grant. I also believe Mccline ko's Wilder.
Briggs is and was a can crusher he'd storm out across the ring and bomb out terrible opposition. He was heavily hyped but once he stepped up he rarely accomplished much. I felt Foreman defeated him and Botha (which was ruled a draw) take those fights off his ledger and he has one of the worst resumes for a heavy in the spotlight for 20 years of all time

 

McCline didn't really have much heart, which is why he never really logged a big win.

Grant's win over Golota is better than anything McCline has. Grant's win over Izon is better than any McCline win other than his win over Grant, which was flukey. Savarese and Al Cole are better wins than Boswell (unproven pretender) and Shufford (past it) or even Briggs given his condition. Savarese was coming off a win over Whitaker going into the Grant fight. Briggs weighed 268 and was leading a medicore career post Botha including a loss to a journeyman.

Furthermore, Grant just had more potential than McCline and was taken a lot more seriously.

Breazeale already has two good stoppage wins over Izu and Mansour. Go watch the Izu fight, you won't regret it, and you'll see that he's fighting a level pretty similar to McCline.

 

Again strongly disagree. Golota exposed Grant badly and was winning when he did what he always did in big fights find a way to quit.
You bring up Al Cole check the resume Mccline defeated him as well.
Fighters get hyped on connections and TV appeal doesn't mean they are the better fighter. Mccline knocked Grant out in first round. Also defeated Briggs. Add in Whittaker, Boswell, Shufford, Cole, and a very competitive loss to Byrd who was better than all of them, where Mccline dropped him (not to mention he dropped Sam Peter too)
Mccline is simply better than Grant and better than Breazele.
And to say he had no heart is wrong. You don't last 10 rounds with Wlad, with no Heart or defeat the guys he did.
Mccline > Grant, Briggs, Breazele
Not close either

 

Al Cole was actually good when Grant beat him. Briggs was 268 and maybe top 30 at best during that period.

Grant was giving Golota a beatdown which is why he quit. Golota was top ten unlike these other opponents being discussed.

The Peter fight is a great example of how poor McCline's heart was. The fight was on a platter for him and he let himself lose. Makes me wonder about Grant had he not snapped his ankle.

Any talk of McCline having been better than Grant is just revisionist bs.

With Briggs it's a different story. Briggs' resume has less depth than McCline's but Briggs was capable of rising to the occasion and giving a real challenge to top fighters. Briggs' top wins probably edge McCline's too esp if Foreman counts.

 

You're way off. And a beatdown to Golota - hardly, check the scorecards Golota was was up huge if I remember. And it never took a beatdown for him to quit.
Briggs is beyond overrated and no I don't count the Foreman "win" one of the worst cards in a big fight. Larry Hazzard put the fix in on that one as he had a dislike for George's team.
Mccline was past prime when he fought Peter who only had one loss at the time (to Wlad) and had never been down. Yet you want to use that as an indication of his lack of heart. You're bias is strong against Mccline.

I'll just say I feel Mccline was better and leave it be have a good day.

As the thread states Mccline's run was very good and to me better than Grant

 

I thought Briggs-Foreman could've gone either way and Foreman's huge fanbase tilted that into something it wasn't. I don't want to defend Briggs though. He left a lot to be desired.

Golota was dropped by Grant and had almost nothing left in the tank when he quit. Golota incidentally did better than McCline against Byrd (heart issue on Jameel's part?).

I already dispelled McCline's resume a couple posts ago and you did little to dispute.

He was basically a mediocre version of Tony Tucker. Worse h2h than Tony Thompson.

 

Foreman won that fight but I didn't shed any tears after Axel Schulz was robbed by Foreman. I don't think Foremans base had anything to do with a bad decision. Besides Foreman was way past it, Schulz won easy, and if not for a 10th round Hail Mary, Moorer was cruising to victory. The fact Briggs looked so poor against a terribly faded 45 year old is indicative of just how poor and overrated he was.
Now you change your outlook on Grant vs Golota. Golota was now exhausted and had nothing left. That's much different than saying Grant gave him a beatdown. Hard to give a beatdown when your down by like 5 rounds on the scorecards as I recall it.
I don't think you dispelled McCline's resume. You just posted your opinion of it which to me, seems biased.
Again: he ko'd Grant in 1 round. Grant in his first fight back after challenging for the title not an old over the hill version.
He defeated prime Whitaker coming off a win over Oleg Maskeav.
Defeated an undeafeted Boswell.
Briggs who never really was that great but who was on a win streak against very limited opposition.
And Shufford who may have been slightly passed it but was a solid name.
To me Grant's resume is not good enough to say he was better than Jameel after the fact he was also ko'd in 1 round by same man.
As for Golota he was held to a disputed draw not much difference than a disputed SD that Mccline received against Byrd, while he also sent Byrd down to canvas.