McCllenan and Lacy............Overhyped Amercians Coming To British Shores

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  1. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    it has happened vica versa many times.

    what it mainly shows though is how hard it is to win on the road, whether it be in the usa or europe or asia or timbuktu.

    americans or american based fighters have always found it just as hard travelling overseas as it is for overseas fighters to fight americans in america.

    not enough credit is given to fighters like lennox lewis for example for fighting on the road so much when comparing resume`s .

    or winky wright who did a european tour and still kept winning when he was younger.
     
  2. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    dont get me wrong

    I thought Gerald showed tremdous heart bravery and solid chin

    but he still failed L TKO 10
     
  3. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Winky Wright came to my British shores a number of times in the 90's

    very impressed with him

    very classy operator

    but there was no hype with him

    and he delievered everytime
     
  4. Jetset78

    Jetset78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    G-man was tough - no hype there in my opinion.

    Lacy - a hype job with limited ability
     
  5. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    no way was he whooping Benns arse

    he had a big 1st round - Benn surived it

    Benn dominated the second round - could not miss McCllenan

    Benn was outgutting McCllenan all the way from the 2nd round

    until the tenth

    McCllenan scored a knock down in the 8th round but that was mainly down to Benns exhustion

    the next round it was McCllenan taking a knee and he was in serious trouble from that point on
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    McClellan wasn't really overrated at the time.

    He's become overrated as the years have past, as is the case with many fighters whose careers ended too soon, or whom self-destructed.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Horrible comparison.:-(
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he was out against the ropes not answering back with any punches , the fall to the canvas revived Benn.. but make no mistake he was out.
     
  9. JonOli

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    McClellan was highly rated at Middle weight, Benn was his first ever fight at Super middle.
     
  10. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    its not so much comparing the fighters against each other

    but it was history repeating itself

    all hyped up American coming over to Britain to bash up a British fighter

    and they got beat fair and square

    the hype around some of these Americans
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats all that needs to be said to prove my point . :good

    and because of that protection, Benn was never the same fighter ether. Both men suffered a great deal of irreversible punishment due the the ref incompetence to stop the fight when it needed to be.
     
  12. JonOli

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    He fell out the ring and got back in within the count. Technically there was nothing wrong with that. I once counted the time he took and it was within the alloted time of the rules.

    I do see what your saying though, Benn does apear knocked out, and it does look like McClellan actually punched him round. Today that fight would have definitely been stopped at the time Benn was out of it on the rope; as a win for McClellan.

    Things were different back then though, and baring perhaps a little help from the ref and ducking low at times, I think Benn won fair and square.
     
  13. Manjanek

    Manjanek ESB Double Whopper Full Member

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    You brits man!!
    The Gman was the real deal! If it weren't for Benn's rabbit punches to the back of the head, we'd have Gerald up there with RJJ and PBF in competition for atg in the last 15 years.
    You know? You brits and your lopsided, tipsy-turvey, street brawls in a squared circle. Hatton and his blatant disregard for the rules in Manchester- oh... me bloody shoelaces. (As im being ko'd) Oh.... hold/smother. Oh.... blatant robbery. or in benns case rabbit punching someone into a coma! or in Calzaghe's case- lets fight only in the UK... where we can run up a good record despite the fact we are the best actually from out country, and try to make some last ditch efforts at legit legacy!!

    You'd rather a fixed fight than a good show- that's what americans bring showmanship and sportsmanship.


    Don't get me wrong - I love my european fighters in legit fights. Chris Eubank is one of my all time favorites... and nigel benn when he wasn't putting people in coma's from illegal tactics was a splendor to watch (don't forget he was also kd's 2x in that fight against G-man) but the tendancy is, and should not be overlooked, that fighters from England who are fighting IN england get to run amuck in the ring with no penalties. I don't see english vs english fighters doing so much illegal activity either! its only when a foreign fighter do the officials look the other way to shady business.

    England- yuck.

    Sorry if i seem really defensive on this issue :) but as you can tell I feel very strongly about this...
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    See?
     
  15. JonOli

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    That's simply not true he was Ring magazine p4p top ten at the time.
     
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