McCullough - Dunne

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  1. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good stuff, didn't know that. :thumbsup
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    McCullough, pretty easy one.

    He had the type of chin that means that not only could he hold a shot but he could carry on walking through them to land his own work. He lacked finesse, but finesse isn't exactly needed to upset Dunne.
     
  3. PatrickP

    PatrickP Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed, but above decent power is needed to upset Dunne, which McCullough did not possess.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    36 minutes is a lot of time to break an opponent down, it doesn't take a lot with Dunne. Martinez and Poon broke him down real quick, I think McCullough has enough power to get to him at some stage.

    Dunne isn't a master boxer either, he can be walked down successfully without any special effects.
     
  5. PatrickP

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    Kiko caught him in the first few seconds, it is well known that Dunne is vulnerable against heavy hitters especially in the opening rounds.

    Poonsawat was simply too strong for Dunne.

    McCullough's power does not even come close to either so it is a nonsensical comparison.

    Dunne is a very good boxer with skills to match anyone at 122. Your argument is based solely on his two losses to guys with twice the power of McCullough. :huh
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Twice as powerful? From where did you pluck that arbitrary figure, your ass?

    36 minutes of going backwards and sideways is a long time to outbox your foe when the power/chin equation on both sides states only one guy is likely to be hurt by punches. You'd really have to be exceptional to do that, almost faultless considering Dunne's durability.

    Now consider the styles, McCullough likes to fight in close, Dunne likes space. Dunne's best performance was against a counterpuncher that gave him more time, his worst have been against come forward fighters.

    Whether Martinez or Poon are more powerful is neither here nor there, whether they are twice as powerful or three times as powerful McCullough has 12 rounds. He doesn't have to lay Dunne out with one punch.
     
  7. PatrickP

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    Look TFFP, I know you think you are some authority on all things boxing and can never seem to accept that someone has a different opinion than your own. You seem to think you can call this fight with certainty despite the fact that you admitted in another thread that you have seen few of Dunne's fights. How many times have you been wrong in the past? I could get that figure by simply going through your older posts, which would be in effect plucking the figure from your ass since that's what you talk out of 99% of the time.

    For the record TFFP, Dunne has fought plenty of come forward fighters besides Poonsawat and Kiko and outpointed all of them, some of them would have had comparable power to McCullough, and Dunne handled them just fine. But of course how would you know this when you've only seen a handful of his fights?
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    You are probably confusing me with somebody else that you've argued with due to your sheer delusion and nuthuggery. There have been quite a few. I've seen all of Dunne's fights that matter and then some, more than enough to give my opinion.

    How many times have I been wrong on boxing? Countless. However I've won the prediction league in 2008 so I'm not a numpty either, and infact I got Dunne's last fight predicted correctly, whereas you...didn't. But thats not exactly a surprise, is it?

    At the end of the day you are a cheerleader at best that is talking bollocks. I don't give a **** either way, I'm giving my honest opinion on two fighters I have seen and have no feelings for.
     
  9. PatrickP

    PatrickP Active Member Full Member

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    I am not the one who refuses to accept someones opinion. I am not the one who talks constant **** about fighters I know **** all about. Either you are the boxing messiah or you spend all day everyday watching every fight of every boxer that ever walked because you seem to think you know everything about everything. You might call it cheerleading, I call it giving my opinion on two fighters I know a lot about, I have watched every televised fight available of both Dunne and McCullough, I am a fan of both and as such am qualified to give an opinion on how this fight would go down. You just post for the sake of posting, as ****ing usual.

    I can show you the post where you admit to having only seen a few of Dunne's fights, and then we can see who is dillusional.

    By the way, what was your prediction for Dunne V Cordoba?
     
  10. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks to both of you for actually making this thread worthwhile. :lol:

    I was hoping at least one Dunne fan would pop up and state his case.
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I've seen his fights at world class, his fight against Martinez and I recall a couple on YouTube against medicore opposition that I THINK were in America. Not many fights, but I have no interest in seeing every single fight, that is what a fan does. Besides, most of it is not relevant when analyzing a fight against an able bodied opponent. I'd sooner watch the fights I've already seen if I wanted to analyze him rather than against some nobody.

    As for predictions, like I said I won the league for this forum last year. All I've seen from you is the tried and tested 'pick Dunne against everybody' which hardly makes you out as a fountain of knowledge. Try peering out from behind Dunne's nutsacks and broaden your horizons champ.
     
  12. PatrickP

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    :lol: I would have kept my mouth shut but I saw that 4 people voted for Dunne but didn't give any reasons. :good
     
  13. PatrickP

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    I wouldn't pick Dunne against anybody, not at all. I picked him over Cordoba because I knew he had the beating of him, I picked Dunne over Poonsawat because I honestly didn't think Poon was as strong and bullish as he turned out to be, as soon as I saw the 1st round I new Dunne was toast. I am fully aware that Dunne needs a certain type of opponent to be successful at world level and in my opinion Wayne McCullough was such an opponent.
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    McCullough is hardly suited to him, McCullough is a come forward fighter that is near impossible to shake off. You say he's beaten come forward fighters but I havn't seen him beat a single good one, he can only have been doing that at the journeyman stage. McCullough for all his shortcomings was a lot better than that, and had to fight top operators. This is the guy that is firing back at Morales in the later rounds after being beat up for long periods, I just can't imagine Dunne beating him.

    At best Dunne has a very difficult night where he eeks out a decision, probably hurt numerous times and hanging on near the end, but to be honest its more likely he just caves in at some point on the balance of things. It's not like he lasted long enough or looked comfortable against the styles of Martinez or Poon to the extent I could say 'Yeah McCullough isn't as powerful, Dunne can make it', he got brutally destroyed and the odds in my mind are McCullough by stoppage whether its the early rounds or round 12.


    We'll just have to agree to disagree, I havn't got the energy for such hostilities over something as trivial as this, its just a fantasy matchup.
     
  15. PatrickP

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