McGuigan’s Gym / Cyclone In Liquidation

I can see your reading comprehension is really poor. I said Rangers didn’t hire any abusers KNOWN to the club. I.e. the club didn’t employ anyone who they KNEW to be abusers.

The total categorical opposite occurred at Celtic and that’s why your club is battling the legal class action (and now trying to settle it). Hugh Birt, a died in the wool proper Celtic man - one of the few who has come out of this scandal with a shred of integrity - has testified that Celtic employed coaches who they KNEW were abusing kids. Indeed, Stein rehired Torbett after he initially booted him out of the club for abusing some youth players.

And I’ll repeat, your club’s entire playing staff and board were aware of the abuse. Billy McNeill described it as an “open secret”.

All of this are just the main reasons why your club’s situation is totally different to any other’s especially Rangers. You hve to be a real double digit IQ simpleton or a blinkered biased individual to dispute that.

 

This is true but is wholly dependent on who it is that is supposed to be paying them.

 

You must be a genuine simpleton if you honestly believe Deadco didn't know, thick as ****. Of course they did fs, don't be ridiculous. The sheer amount of scumbags that were affiliated/employed by the club is incredible.
As I said earlier, this is the same club that had numerous warnings about their stadium, ignored them, and ultimately charged with manslaughter of their own fans. They're hardly the pillars of society, they actually told one of the victims to chase it up with the liquidators of the old club.

Celtic absolutely had a bad past. So did oldco. As did numerous other clubs. However, there's only one fan base that use it for regular point scoring ... You can deny it or try be a smart arse about how you're wording it, we both know I'm right.

I can't be bothered going around in circles.

 

You’re in denial. And it doesn’t surprise me because it’s a sordid history. You can throw all the “youse did it too” crap but there’s no basis behind that in fact and that’s why we aren’t battling a legal class action.

Newco Celtic tried to hide behind a defence of “separate entity” despite decades of history proving that the “entities” were affiliated. Celtic are now trying to settle after forcing the victims and their families through a prolonged legal process.

Its the shame of Scottish football and the fact that the club and the fans refuse to even discuss it at AGMs, on forums etc and then try to throw out “everyone did it” defences just compounds the utter shame of it all.

 

It's a fact you did it. Fact. No deniable or debatable, a fact. Same as being done for maiming and killing your own fans. Fact.

Can spout all the pish you like. This day and age it's easy enough to Google it.

 

Again, you have zero evidence for your ridiculous claim and that’s why we aren’t in a legal class action. Also why the club has repeatedly called for a public inquiry into all clubs in the country. But if it helps you cope, keep lying to yourself.

As for the claims about killing fans, have a read of Dr Keith Still’s assessment of the disaster, the leading expert on crowd safety in the UK.

It makes me laugh because I can guarantee you that I know more about the history of your club and the CSA scandal that was allowed to occur by club chiefs and staff than you do. But that doesn’t surprise me because your fans refuse to discuss it on forums and not even at the AGMs despite the fact that there is a multi million pound liability attached to the issue.

 

There's an interview with Carl Frampton where he says Cyclone were taking lots of money from him for his big fights. Surprised it's taken this long. When Josh Taylor left them, it was pretty much curtains in terms of promoting any big money fights.