Mchunu is like the cruiserweight version of Rigondeaux

I hereby declare Robney the official Head Arithmetician of BoxingForum24.

 

What the HELL has happened to this thread? c

 

Yes, let's get back on track. Heavily pigmented midgets with the athleticism, fitness, and inclination to avoid getting punched in the face are BORING!

 

They wouldn't be if Annie Sprinkle got a hold of 'em, let me tell you...

 

Is she into weird things with boxing midgets

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Is there even such a thing as kink without midgets? :?

 

Guess you got a point there IB

 

Makabu via knockout or Mchunu via UD would seem the logical outcomes possible in that one. I don't know that you can lean too confidently in the direction of the former over the latter, though.

Comparing their best five wins...

Makabu has as his centerpiece the close decision over Kucher, who at one time was a highly rated prospect (and former Ukrainian national amateur champ with nearly 200 bouts' worth of experience) but seems to have leveled out in the pros and been shown up - including but not just in the Makabu loss - as lacking all the required tools of a champ.

Mchunu has as his centerpiece the complete schooling of Chambers, who of course was a top heavyweight contender but many surmise lost too much weigh too quickly and/or in the wrong manner.

So those are both excellent ornaments serving at the shiny golden stars atop their respective trees, but they both have asterisks. If you want to harp on about the weight drain affecting Chambers, you need to balance that with the fact that Mchunu vs. Chambers wasn't even close, total whitewash, as opposed to Makabu who just edged out a very good but pound for pound inferior fighter to Chambers.

Then we go to #2-5 for each.

Makabu has knockouts of:
Lodi (undefeated prospect, high KO %)
Gorgiladze (undefeated prospect, high KO %)
Fields (entered a 22-1 fringe contender, best he ever fought was Ola Afolabi who crushed him in his previous step up, scoring multiple knockdowns and stopping him late)
Gbenga (hard SOB, only ever stopped otherwise by Jack, been in with some names; substituted here instead of what more seem the more obvious #5 choice in Pedro Otas, who's garbage and whose pretty looking record was horrifically padded as most Brazilians' are...)

...while Mchunu perpetrated his giant slayer routine upon the following hapless victims:
Simba (twice by KO - formerly world ranked)
Venter (once by KO, once by decision - displacing him as #1 in South Africa, giving up nine inches in height. Ignore Boxrec. Venter is 6'5"; Mchunu 5'8"...)
Bruwer (former SA champ, trained by top SA coach Nic Durand...Mchunu dominated, stayed in his chest all night and busted up his face...7" height differential...)
Durodola (entered with a minor WBC bauble and ranking, having only ever lost to a major prospect and product of the outstanding Uzbek program - dropped and schooled)


:think Objectively speaking, that is a very tight race if we're talking about overall resume quality factoring in opposition level and form against. (and really the representative samples above should be all we're looking at; outside their five best names, neither Mchunu nor Makabu have anything worth a damn...)


I can see a case for Junior as the powerful, well-rounded southpaw being a major threat for Mchunu (especially if you look at Mchunu's unflattering KO loss on the domestic scene - but, lest we forget, Makabu has exactly that same kind of blemish, word for word, on his record as well :hey) - but you can also mount a case that Junior has never encountered anything like the Rock's elusiveness. The most skilled man he ever fought by far was Kucher and nobody is going to accuse Kucher of having an overly slick or boring style. :yep

 

i haven't seen the guy you are talking about....but if u think that rigondeaux is not setting up his offense and punching with intention....u need to pay closer attention. i won't judge u...but typically i think the ppl who find rigondeaux "boring" don't fully understand what they are seeing and clearly have short attention spans. unfortunately, that is the majority of americans because they've been dumbed down by video games, horrible television, the educational system....and society in general.

 

Realsies?


Per my earlier statement, comparing him with Rigondeaux is a little bit of a stretch (even though Wild Style didn't mean it to be complimentary :roll and unfair given that he lacks Rigondeaux's pedigree and the sad fact that South Africa's boxing program is light years behind Cuba's - but he is quite slick.



Dashing the dreams of a smooth cruiser debut of Fast Eddie Chambers in an NBC Sports co-main event last August (his international breakout performance):

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Boxing circles around powerful Nigerian oxen-man Durodola in an NBC Sports co-main event last Friday night:

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As for the rest of your post, I agree totally. Those who find Rigondeaux boring simply DKSAB, end of story.

 

i missed that chambers fight. i've always been a eddie chambers fan.

mchunu is definitely highly skilled. love his style and i am now a fan. he's gonna represent south africa well.

 

i haven't watched enough of mchunu to confirm or deny your accusation...but from the few rounds i just watched from the 2 videos above...i have to say he countered when the opportunities presented themselves. i'll watch the whole fight before i'll comment on him.

as for the style of fighting...the idea is to take some steam out of your opponent by making them miss and making them pay. it's about taking calculated risks. it's a judment call by the fighters as the fight happens. in the case of rigdoneaux...he didn't take advantage of every single countering opportunity early in the fight....but by fights end he was blasting away and had donaire running. these are decisions being made in milli-seconds and i can't fault a guy for not seeing every single opportunity. when that speed is off slightly...that's when the ko's are scored. knowing that nonito is sharp and dangerous early on...*see darchinyan 1, montiel, nishioka..etc...it's not always wise to attack every single time he made him miss.

 

Exactly, and unlike with Rigondeaux he is typically facing height differentials in his weight division that would ordinarily place him several divisions below...so it's even more unfair to expect him to stand in the pocket with these massive dudes and just slug it out. I don't know what "more" Wild Style expects Mchunu to be capable of doing, exactly? He wants a 5'8" dude - no matter how much of brick **** house - to be one-shot sandbagging linebackers? :huh That's his idea of a realistic standard just because there is an obvious gulf in class between Mchunu and the bigs?

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