'Mean' Joe Greene ~vs~ Delray Raines

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think this is the only Greene footage on YouTube, and he doesn't exactly like his best in this.

    Well, if you think Raines looks good, I don't know what to tell you.

    Did you see the footage from his last fight that I posted? I looked slow, plodding, predictable, and poor footwork. And that wasn't against a world beater, mind you.

    My motivation is really nothing more than having become a fan of Greene after first seeing him fight live on a Tua under card in NYC. Since seen him fight a bunch of times, and think he has the potential to possibly become a really good fighter.

    He has a decent amateur background and won the national golden gloves before turning pro.

    I think Raines has been fighting at 160, but that shouldn't matter much, as Greene also used to fight as a middleweight until fairly recently.

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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Almost Greene Time.

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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    It's almost Greene Time.

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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll say this:

    Raines is a tough mother ****er and he should be proud. He was outclassed by a superior foe, but he showed heart & courage.

    Your boy should be proud, Tim.

    :good

    PS--Martinez would have destroyed my boy Greene. :mad:
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    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with this statement though I was impressed with the two 12 punch combinations he threw late in the fight.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I like Greene a lot, and I hope the best for him in his career, but Martinez is too good for him at this stage--and perhaps, at any stage.

    Greene showed good skills tonight, and he won every round, but he also showed some vulnerabilities.
     
  7. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Greene has work to do...I agree that Martinez gives him fits. Raines made it a war but he did not have a jab in his holster. He just let Greene come in and do major work on his body without ever paying a price to get inside. In the end though Raines actually appeared fresher and more competitive doing nice work in round 7...though I gave it to Greene...and he was strong in the 8th, same story.

    I had it 8-0 tough SOB but needs a jab...he's a huge 154 if he can make it but he needs that damage doing jab.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I also had it 8-0, but Raines had a decent round or two.

    He seems poorly schooled. With his heart and size, I would think he can make better use of his tools with a better trainer, but at the end of the day, he will never amount to much more than what he is.

    I think they should get Greene two more opponents of that caliber this year before sending him in with anyone in the top 15.
     
  9. PBFTHAP4P

    PBFTHAP4P New Member Full Member

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    Raines will not go anywhere with a ****** like goodscum managing his career, he either puts him against TPS bums from off the streets or against somebody way above him.
     
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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here's a name Greene's camp should think about putting him in with before putting him in with top 15 comp: Harry Joe Yorgey.
     
  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    He performed about as well as he could have, given that it was pretty clear he was completely outclassed. He showed a lot of heart and a good chin - which is why, btw, I thought that those who were picking him to get blown out early were off the mark.

    I thought he won a round or two (I had it 78-74 like one of the judges), but it was pretty much a one sided win. This performance should get Delray another ESPN fight, he proved he can at least hang with these guys. One level below Greene and he's have a good shot at victory.