"Mean Machine hits harder than Canelo"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Babality, Sep 15, 2025 at 3:44 PM.


  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Damn.
     
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  2. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Holyfield made a good point many years ago - (somewhat paraphrasing as I cannot find the clip) "Mike Tyson didn't hit me that hard, I've seen that he hit people hard he just didn't land on me with those shots. It was mostly arm punches". I thought a similar thing when I first saw Crawford say that. Canelo really didn't land a lot clean, so difficult to judge a full bodied shot.

    Power doesn't always come from size too, if I recall correctly, Emmanuel Steward said once that Hamed hit harder than Lewis on the bags.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Bring on Vergil Ortiz vs. Canelo Alvarez!:ggg
     
  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    That's why he spent the whole fight on his bike, I guess, because he tought that canelo punched softer than Mean Machine. He won le tour de las vegas last saturday riding his bike

    Lying through his teeth
     
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  5. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    Stop crying boy!
     
  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Stop believing everything people say in youtube, boomer
     
  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I don't see why he needs to lie about a guy he beat.
     
  8. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    As much as I love virgil's boxing, he never was the same after his illness.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Looked pretty ****ing good walking through the punches of Bohachuk and Madrimov.
     
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  10. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Neither do I. But the way he fought doesnt say "canelo punches softer than kavaliuskas", it actually was crying the exact oposite. I've never seen crawford riding a bike like he did last saturday. I prefer to believe facts rather than words
     
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  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    They were standing at the end of the fight. Before his illness virgil wouldnt have allowed that to happen.

    maybe it is me being biased because I'm a fan
     
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  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny how Bivol said Canelo hits harder than Beterbiev.

    So if we're to take their statemetns at face value, then are we supposed to believe that Kavaliauskas hits harder that Artur? :qmeparto:
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Bud has actual grounds to say that Canelo didn't really hit him that hard, because he really wasn't able to load up and hit him with the kind of concussive punching power that we've seen Canelo dish out to other fighters before, including Bivol.

    I mean against Bivol, in the early goings, Canelo went balls to the wall and loaded up with some massive shots that bruised Bivol's bicep. And he tired himself out trying to start so strong, leading to a mostly easy last 8 rounds for Bivol against a gassed Canelo. But the point is, Canelo took the fight to Bivol early, despite Bivol's tight defense, Bivol felt Canelo's power.

    Canelo never really came at Bud like that, to inflict damage, because unlike Bivol, Crawford wasn't standing in front of him, he was moving, making it hard to set. Canelo still was able to outland Bud but Bud was able to time him and land perhaps the better punches despite being largely outlanded. Canelo had no problem targeting Bivol, the problem was landing, as much of his punches were hitting gloves, or biceps, or arms. With Bud, Canelo couldn't catch a moving target, who was more rangey than Bivol. Bud didn't have to do the kind of blocking Bivol did, becuase Bud's best defense was moving away, being slipperly, and occassionally catching Canelo with eye catching shots.
     
  14. Homericlegend03

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    I was born in 2003.
     
  15. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Those weren't tire marks on your boys face. Bottom line, as experienced as Canelo is, he never learned how to cut off the ring properly. You never seen anyone "run" from Roman Gonzalez, Golovkin or Beterbiev. Why, because they cut off the ring very well and were/are always in striking distance.
     
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