Measuring Manny 2012 Video: Pacquiao Improved or Overhyped?

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  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:patsch
     
  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really? You sure it's not just a re-hash the same old **** that's already been made on ESB, and everywhere else, a lifetime ago?
     
  3. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    I'll say Manny Pacquiao is Overhyped if SOMEONE today, well except PBF, can outdo what Manny has accomplished. careful matchmaking? Well can bradley get all the way from 140 to 160? Can Gamboa win fights from 130 to 154? Can Ward beat top opponents from 160 up to Heavyweight? Not sure alright.


    Yeah Im a Pacfan but I just see it as PBF UD Pac, but Boxing Fury just kisses Floyd's crackhole bigtime with that video.
     
  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    It hasn't already been made on esb. Most of you guys are too ***** to publicize that emmanuel hasn't improved. People can act like they know everything, but it doesn't mean nothing unless they do something with what they know.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    he is overhyped

    he managed to convince the majority of people to make Juan into a what -1000 underdog due to his "improvements" only to get beat the **** up on the night of the fight

    emmanuel was mad reaching after the fight saying how people aren't flips if they admit he lost the fight. he was reaching and had nothing just like the fight
     
  6. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    now youre telling us that pac became overhyped overnight over pac-jmm3? come****ingon man.
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    no my main stand is he hasn't improved as much as he wanted everyone to believe

    he's always done okay against brawlers and guys who want to come forward and trade throughout his career but struggled with "boxers"

    it's not much of an improvement if you didn't get better in your weak points
     
  8. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    barrera was a boxer too
     
  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    one who didn't mind coming forward and trading a bit

    emmanuel's best performances come against a certain archetype

    Barrera
    Oscar
    Cotto(e)

    come forward, flat footed, and left hook dominant without a great right

    he didn't need to make many renovations to kick their AZZ. They always going to be food
     
  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    What exactly is he doing that's different?

    He expresses his opinions in a video form, whereas others do it in text. It's still the same old stuff that's not telling us anything different.
     
  11. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's true that they don't make videos, which are more accessible, but I have seen many people using animated gifs to support their arguments. As far as I'm concerned, that's just as good. I'd rather read a proper, in-depth breakdown with gifs than a shallow video which dresses up basic points as if they were precious pieces of wisdom. (A video which also doesn't seem to be as balanced or objective as it should be.)
     
  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    visuals in videos are louder than words

    more people use youtube than they do esb

    besides, he's bringing attention to it which many people were too polite or fearful to do

    Remember these videos that everyone fanatically ignored?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314pcxGkD3o[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-Ucms_pa8&feature=related[/ame]

    He was one of the original pioneers that stuck his neck out like a G and boldly claimed emmanuel didn't improve. He was right too. This isn't some one hit wonder hop along ***get.
     
  13. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We could just recognise Marquez as an exceptional fighter? Naaa too easy.. Manny is a hype job.
     
  14. xizor

    xizor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gotta let this thread burn a little bit more.