Just a point I came across and found it to be interesting. Video is old, but it's relevant since Manny/Marquez is coming next Nov. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314pcxGkD3o&feature=channel_video_title[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-Ucms_pa8&feature=relmfu[/ame]
Seen this before. Pacquiao has become a better counter-puncher and has added to his punch arsenal, along with becoming more patient, but of course his fundamental roots are the same. The JMM/Cotto combo comparison was very telling. He can do less if his angles and control of pace are taken away frequently. JMM isn't favored to win, but if he can come in at his very best and study the tapes, he can give us a great fight because of styles.
I know what you're saying. Don't get me wrong, I think Marquez will lose clearly come Nov., but this is a pretty good breakdown of what we're not seeing since Manny's latest opponents haven't been very well rounded. Not to disrespect those fighters or take anything away from Manny himself, but does make for a good discussion.
He still makes a good point about the footwork. Cotto's footwork, in absence of a real damn trainer, was a mess in that fight, and wasn't prepared to work off the back-foot. It wasn't exactly his style either, but the point still stands that being able to create a space where less mobile fighters would have been hit and to use that space to counter was what gave JMM an edge. I wouldn't say Pac hasn't improved, that's ridiculous, but his point about the opponent mattering more than Pac's improved arsenal rings true.
He is right Marquez and Morales tough yes but what people don't see is the intelligence in there.Floyd is the same but i don't think it's a wise idea to dope a rope with his shoulder roll trick on the ropes.
You are analyzing an past time Manny Paquiao, Manny vs Marquez III will be a loopside victory for Paquiao... and you know it.... We are still waiting on Floyd" "it was never about the test" Mayweather to grow a pair.
I can see why he doesn't want to fight Pac now 12 rounds of Pac is mofo hell:shock: you might win but you will get some damage for your trouble.
:rofl:rofl:rofl:roflYou're a clown if you think this guy does'nt know his boxing. The guy does a fabulous job in breaking it down to a tee....... Loved the way he shows the rounds and gives his comments as to why things are happeing the way they were. Did you not take note as he was pointing out that Pacquiao was using the same moves and headmovement against Marquez that Pacquiao continues to use currently. He shows Pacquiao currently and breaks to a Marquez clip that shows Pacquiao doing exactly the same moves. Go to about the 9 minute mark of the 2nd part of the video......What a great job he did in first showing Pac's knockdown of Cotto, the way he angled, popped him, and dropped him (what *******s like you today say is the improved technical Pacquiao) Then he broke away to a Marquez clip where Pacquiao used the same angle and shot selection that dropped Cotto, and we saw Marquez use his legs to move out and to the lateral to counter Pacquiao with a combination that hurled Pacquiao off his feet into the air. The guy broke it down exellent, and all you can do is make yourself look like a fool by calling his analysis one dimensional.:rofl:roflnutatsch
You have to admit the guy showed video sequences that showed the same Pacquiao moves then and now. .....and he did admit to Pacquiao improving, the key as he put it however was "how much, we cant really tell based on the stationary targets that Pacquiao has been fighting. ......we did see how the movement by Mosley did trouble Pacquiao, Mosley however did'nt have the skillset to fight off that moving mode.
^ The point isnt whether or not he uses the same moves. The difference now is he's a lote more poised, and smarter about using those moves. And he's gotten a lot better with his accuracy and putting different combinations together. This isn't a bad video but it's a bit biased (and he's not as smart as he thinks he is). He also makes it sound like it's some easy feat to do what Marquez did. "All you have to do is move, and throw a combination.. " As if it's that easy. Marquez happens to be a special fighter and had the right style to deal with Pacquiao at the time. And he's clearly missing the nuances of pacquiao's recent improvements.
JDK, thanks for sharing these videos. ESB members, especially *******s should take note and educate themselves by watching them.
:deal Pac improved his ring IQ in general. He used to be a brawler (like what we saw in round 10 after the "KD" vs Mosley) but he chooses and throws his punches more effectively and more prevcisely now, with added balance to boot. You just got to agree that he improved his right hand's power and usability dramatically tho. Saying he didn't improve at all is something only, well, divac and *****s would say.
