Media score cards for Bivol/Beterbiev...... OVERWHELMINGLY for Bivol

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  1. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Media score cards for Bivol/Beterbiev
    Brent Brookhouse (CBS Sports): 115-113 Bivol

    Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 115-113 Bivol

    Al Bernstein (Hall of Fame Boxing analyst): 115-113 Bivol

    Mike Coppinger (ESPN): 115-113 Bivol

    Timothy Bradley (ESPN): Bivol won

    Andreas Hale (ESPN): 115-113 or 116-112 Bivol

    Steven Muehlhausen (Sports Illustrated): "Some highway robbery in Saudi."

    Chris Mannix (Sports Illustrated and DAZN): 114-114 draw

    Sergio Mora (DAZN): 115-113 Bivol or draw

    Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

    Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

    Steve Kim (3 Knockdown Rule): 115-113 Beterbiev

    Mario Lopez (3 Knockdown Rule): 115-113 Beterbiev

    Josh Peter and Mike Brehm (USA Today): 115-113 Beterbiev

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Bivol

    Ariel Helwani (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Bivol

    Bobbie Jackson and Charlotte Coates (BBC Sport): 114-114 draw

    Lance Pugmire (PPV.com and *******): "…I had it for Bivol based on activity and effectiveness."

    Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 115-113 Bivol

    Shawn Porter (PBC and The PorterWay Podcast): 116-112 Bivol

    Andre Ward: "BIVOL WON THAT FIGHT !"

    Tony Bellew: "I’ve got Bivol winning that!"

    Adam Smith (Sky Boxing and TalkSPORT Boxing): draw

    Adam Catterall (TalkSPORT Boxing): 114-114 draw

    Spencer Oliver (Sky Sports and TalkSPORT Boxing): 116-114 Beterbiev

    Robert Garcia (Trainer): 115-113 Bivol

    Carl Froch (Froch on Fighting): "I thought Bivol did enough to win..."

    Paulie Malignaggi (Paulie TV and ProBox TV): "Bivol won the fight"

    Chris Algieri (ProBox TV): Bivol won

    Gayle Falkenthal (NY Fights): 115-113 Bivol

    Seconds Out: 115-113 Beterbiev

    Teddy Atlas (ESPN and THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas): 115-113 Beterbiev

    Tom Craze (The Boxing Betting Show): "Thought Bivol or draw..."

    Brian Mazique (Forbes): 116-112 Bivol

    Bill Simmons (The Ringer): "I thought Bivol won..."

    Lyle Fitzsimmons (Bleacher Report): 115-113 Bivol

    George Flood (The London Standard): "I’d have given it to Bivol just or a draw..."

    Alex Pattle (The Independent): 114-114 draw

    Bryan Armen Graham (The Guardian): 114-114 draw

    Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Beterbiev

    Garry White (Boxing News and Boxing Monthly): draw

    Tom Gray (The Sporting News): 115-113 Bivol

    Matthew Aguilar (Writer and Inductee El Paso Boxing HOF): 115-113 Bivol

    Frank Warren (boxing promoter): "I gave it to Bivol by a couple of rounds."

    Harrison Campbell (The Tennessean): "To me, Bivol looks the more likely to take the fight by decision..."

    Ken Hissner (BoxingNews24): 115-113 Bivol

    Everything Boxing: Bivol won

    Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Bivol

    Phil Jay (World Boxing News): 114-114 draw

    John Hansen (BadLeftHook): 114-114 draw

    Below The Belt Podcast: 114-114 draw

    Auténtico Boxing: 115-113 Beterbiev

    Cory Braiterman (MMA Mania): 117-111 Bivol

    Sherry Abbasi (TKO Boxing): 114-114 draw

    Bryan Tucker (MMA Fighting): 114-114 draw

    Wally Downes Jr. (The US SUN): "Dmitry Bivol was utterly robbed..."

    Deven Kanal (Firstpost): 114-114 draw

    ShowBizz The Adult: 115-113 Beterbiev

    Fred Beck (Fred Talks Fighting): 116-112 Bivol

    TstreeT Controversy: BIVOL ROBBED!

    36 for Bivol, 9 for Beterbiev, 18 draw
     
    tragedy, Oct 22, 2024
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  2. Veerbone

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    Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Beterbiev
    Cory Braiterman (MMA Mania): 117-111 Bivol

    Both ridiculous. All the rest are sensible.
     
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  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Such a close fight and reflected by just about every one of those scorecards.
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Those scorecards are all over the place. Time to accept reality buddy. Bivol lost a close fight.
     
    UnleashtheFURY, Oct 22, 2024
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  5. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    So there's a whole bunch of mfers who were not the judges of that fight or any fight claiming Bivol was the winner....... There was even a couple of ex competitors who were blessed with some questionable victories during their careers trying to go against the judges' verdict.

    So, what?....... The fight was close and honestly, picking either one, you aren't wrong, imo.....but this claim for "robbery" needs to stop. The judges made their decisions in the moment. It is what it is.....
     
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  6. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That settles it - Bivol won.
     
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  7. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    The media are paid stooges ..

    & It wasn't really that overwhelming considering 27 didn't have it for Bivol
     
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  8. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The concensus is a Bivol win or a draw. Beterbiev getting the nod doesn't suggest a robbery as most had Bivol up by 1 round in a close fight.

    Probably time to move on.
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That is an enormous amount of draws for a media split. Unreal amount of draws. The single biggest marker for a very close fight for me is a lot of drawn scorecards.

    I had it 7-5 Bivol but there's no story here. A very close fight looked a certain way to the judges. It happens.
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Ok, it's a wrap. Bivol won. Now how do we get Boxrec to change the decision?
     
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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    do you mean only 9 out of 63 had it for beterbiev?
     
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  12. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nearly everyone who had Bivol winning had the fight 115-113 which lends to the fact that it was an extremely close fight. If you change one round against Bivol it's a draw. If you change 2 rounds it becomes a Beterbiev win. There's very few fights that don't have 2-3-4 swing rounds that could go to the opponent based on where the judge or simply onlookers are sitting.

    It was a close fight, sometimes you gotta just put things to bed and move on
     
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  13. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    It wasn't a robbery. I scored it 114-114 a draw or 115-114 for Bivol with one even round. The 115-113 score for Beterbiev was fine too.

    That being said, I did not like the 116-112 score for Beterbiev.
     
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  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone had an erection for Bivol because of what he did to Canelo.

    Take Canelo out of it and people's perceptions are more based in rationality.
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    18 draws says a lot.
     
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