Media Scorecards: Canelo-GGG 2

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3: :risas3::risas3:
     
  2. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had the fight for Golovkin, but at the end of the day I can live with the result, as in...it was a close fight.

    What I have a bigger problem with now, is the first fight. I mean, a lot of people are simply gonna have to revise their previous opinions and arguments in justifying that draw score, when they claim this to be a clear cut win for Canelo. BCS8 has got a point in his post...claiming Canelo deserves a clear win because of pushing back GGG, but being ok with him backpedaling the first fight to earn a draw doesnt make any sense. One gets to be the consumate boxer counterpuncher, while the other is reduced to the shot fighter "forced" on the defensive. Makes no sense to me
     
  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    feel the same way
     
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Of course it was fine for Ward to have a tune up before fighting a top 5 P4P guy in Kovalev. I am merely calling out the hypocrisy. Ward was expected to fight right away and yet Fury needs 5 fights and 2 years before facing Wilder? Wilder, a guy Fury himself said he could beat right off the couch and the Fury followers supported that narrative. Some even made statements that Wilder would never face Fury. This is what I am speaking to. If you want to continue to criticize Wilder for facing Fury in December, go ahead but, this is a fight that people wanted to see and was delayed due to Fury's antics. It's not Wilder's fault that Fury took 3 years off, got morbidly obese, did drugs and drank in excess. All the while calling out all the top heavies. Fury is in the position he is in because of his own actions, not Wilder!
     
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  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I agree Fury has no one to blame for being inactive and if you go back and look I **** all over him but ward was in the same boat with only himself to blame
     
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  6. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Makes absolutely no sense and Canelo fans won't admit it. In the 2nd fight Gennady was slipping many of Canelo's punches through Rounds 1-6 , which were rounds that most thought Canelo won. If you rewatch those rounds, just because Canelo was staying in the middle of the ring, doesn't mean he was scoring effective punches.
     
  7. Cafe

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    The more time goes on, the more people are waking up to the fact that it was a bad decision. I'm glad to see that. I thought it'd be the opposite where a guy who gets the W usually gets away with it and the robbery is forgotten. Not the case here. This one's not going anywhere.
     
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  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    And people trying to legitimize this win, good luck, most boxing fandom will never see this as a Canelo win and he'll never get full credit for it.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    ^ This is what a wrong opinion looks like.
     
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  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    youre trying awfully hard to convince yourself.
     
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  11. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Good score, by memory we only disagree on round 3 which I have to Canelo making it a draw
     
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  12. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was nearly not possible to give Canelo more than 3 rounds. At best for Canelo it was 8-4 GGG.

    It was a not-so subtle robbery.
     
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  13. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Ward did have an injury but, the law suite is something up for debate. You can argue that Ward was out because of a law suite he didn't need to go through. But still, his come back fights were much better opponents than Fury's. And don't get me wrong, Fury needs tune ups. He messed up by letting his mouth write checks his ass couldn't cover is all. After it is all said and done, Fury should be in good condition come December. This is a good fight that answers a few questions. Is Wilder the goods and is Fury all he's talked up to be?
     
  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    to me fury will always be the mother****er who punched himself in the face
     
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  15. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    List compiled by Sponge, I believe, of media scorecards for GGG or Draw.
    Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin
    Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin
    The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin
    Sherdog . com: 116-112 Golovkin
    Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin
    Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin
    Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin
    Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin
    Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin
    Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin
    Jai Bednall (news . com . au): 115-113 Golovkin
    Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin
    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
    Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin
    World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin
    Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin
    Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw
    Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw
    Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
    Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw
    *******: 114-114 draw
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw
    The Associated Press: 114-114 draw
    Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw
    George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw
    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
    Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

    List of fighters who scored for Canelo according to Uppercut to the Body and No Neck
    Andre Ward
    Errol Spence
    Jermell Charlo
    Mikey Garcia
    Robert Garcia
    Floyd Snr
    Andrew Tabiti
    Andy Lee
    Ryan Garcia
    Bernard Hopkins
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Jorge Linares
    Tony Bellew
    David Haye
    Amir Khan
    Clarissa Shields
    Gerry Cooney
    Anthony Fowler
    Austin Trout
     
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