Right, but mediocre guys NEVER beat better fighters on the better fighters' best nights. I thought that was completely clear based on the initial post picking Spinks over Ali. There's no point of the thread if you're just going to run down a list of better fighters who were better than someone who ended up having a mediocre career. That's why they're better and the other fighters were mediocre. Jimmy Young had a mediocre career overall. But when he fought Ali and Foreman and Norton ... those three weren't having their best nights of their careers, too. Right? Was the Ali who fought Young Ali on HIS BEST NIGHT? Is Ali-Young your go-to BEST Ali performance? We're just recognizing mediocre fighters on the one night where they were unstoppable. It's supposed to be an enjoyable exercise. Like "Remember that one night when that guy everyone thought would lose was incredible?" I didn't see this as yet another thread where people are crapping all over the mediocre guys. We know they were mediocre. It's about the one night they weren't.