yes thats me.......i got it in december and yeah i am a die hard fan.....nice to meet u though i have heard good things
If he didn't nail you he was actually quite mediocre. There wasn't a whole lot of things that Shavers could do besides punch with that right.
You don't go 15 close rounds with Muhammad Ali, and 23 rounds with Holmes being mediocre. Shavers was a good fighter caught up in the wrong era. He'd be the champion now. He would have been one of the elites in the 90's.
FWIT I agree with him. If Shavers wasn't mediocre how come he wasn't able to get further on his power? In world class terms, which is what we are talking about, Shavers was as an overall package mediocre. Against clubfighters and shopworn contenders he excelled. Whenever he stepped up in class he invariably lost. At this level that equals medicore IMO. Put it this way, if Shavers had been an average puncher how many fights would he have won?
Believing Shavers would be mentioned in a greatest fighters of all time convo in the way you insinuate makes Chris' mediocre statement pale in comparison. The only way Earnie is getting mentioned in such light is if Ali or Holmes are brought up.
Shavers was very limited, with stamina, and when he moved up in class, he lost, his KD over Holmes and stop of Norton(who was Ko'd a few times) were his best, he has one shot power but was not known to take it well, I had ringside for Ellis and Quarry and Ali and if Earnie could not punch, he couldn,t not do much else
Rudi Lubbers went 12 with a much, much better version of Ali. But wouldn't you say he's mediocre? I could say exactly the same thing about a Holmes opponent, say, Rodriguez, but then you'd probably say he was the next big thing, or that Larry found out one week before the fight that he had to fight the feared Rodriguez for the heavyweight championship!