Meldonium traces found in small amounts before 1 october 2016 are legal

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not denying anything, I'm saying the jury is still out on Povetkin. WADA is saying he might may or may not have used after Jan 1, 2016. We simply don't know, the scientific data isn't deep enough to make that call right now.

    So WADA is saying its too early to call. Yet you (a biased layman) are screaming "he's guilty, can't you see!!!" from the rooftop. Then I call you on it and you get all personal with me. I'm simply repeating what WADA is saying, yet that somehow makes you angry? I don't understand why.
     
  2. NaiKoN

    NaiKoN M Power! Full Member

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    Here is the link to the document:

    https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/2016-06-30-meldonium_notice.pdf

    And in regards to 3 clear test and fourth with small amount. There was a case with Russian swimmer Efimova who had both clear tests and tests with small amounts(showed up couple of times). She was proven innocent and basically there is theory that meldoniun stacks up in liver and shows us up in tests from time to time. Since Povetkin, Efimova are not the only ones who's tests both show clean and one's with small amounts of meldonium, so I believe Povetkin is gaining more and more ground every day in their lawsuit.
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder didn't want to make 5 mil? Stfu, lmfao...:rofl
     
  4. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    We know that he tried to cheat and mask the drug! Fact. The big payoff could possibly happen. Wilder isn't out of the woods yet. The Russians have a lot of money to spend lol...
     
  5. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol...I love how these Melvetkin fans want to say Melodium is not a PED just because WADA/VADA couldn't determine whether he was on it before or after it was deemed a banned substance. It's a PED. He was on it. But, it's not clear whether he was on it when it was deemed a legal PED or a banned one. That's what we know. And he was considered "innocent" of wrongdoing due to that fact. Wilder doesn't have anything to worry about. WBC granted him a voluntary defense.

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  6. Code Red

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  7. Imperial1

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    Meldonium, the same drug for which tennis star Maria Sharapova recently tested positive, was approved to be added to the banned substance list by the World Anti-Doping Agency in September and the ban went into effect Jan. 1. Meldonium is used because it is said to increase blood flow and allow more oxygen to be carried to the muscles and, therefore, enhance stamina, a trait boxers would want in a long fight. Wonder why Sharapova was banned then not a PED my ass
     
  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Sharapova was not 15 times under the world doping agency limit you gimp.
     
  9. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    No, it is not a PED because there is no research that shows that meldonium has similar effect on performance as other PEDs.

    “There’s really no evidence that there’s any performance enhancement from meldonium. Zero,” said Don Catlin, a long-time anti-doping expert and the scientific director of the Banned Substances Control Group.

    “The evidence around whether it is a performance-enhancing drug is quite thin,” said Mark Stuart, a pharmacist in London who is on the medical and antidoping commission of the European Olympic Committees.

    It is also not a PED because it can be bought over the counter in many European countries and it has a similar effect on sport performance as the workout supplement named L-Carnitine that is used by Western athletes and it is considered legal by WADA. Meldonium may have a positive effect on performance (like most workout supplements) but that effect is not as significant to classify it a PED. Meldonium was used by EE athletes since the 70s nobody had a problem with that stuff for about 40 years until this year. What has changed? Nothing, still no research. But, the Olympics are in this year so they banned it to mess with Russian athletes due to the current political situation. Banning it was a clear political move and nothing else.
     
  10. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No, he's still roided to the core, he just happened to slip by on mellodium (and even that story still sounds like BS)
     
  11. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    This.

    If anyone cant understand this then i feel bad for them

    The biggest hypocrisy of it all was Travis tygrat president of usada coming out and saying that the Russians should receive even more punishment when he's own organisation is corrupt as hell and mayweather gets a pass on using an iv a day before a fight for no legit reason and no reporting it because he pays 150,000 for drug testin . Trgrat himself came out and said he did nothing wrong

    While bj Penn uses an iv out of competition and notifys them about it and gets suspended. You couldn't make this stuff up
     
  12. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at the Demographs all of a sudden talking science. Where was this when you prematurely accused a man before giving a chance for dust to clear. Povetkin was labeled PEDvetkin from the very start, without any research. Look at you all now, arguing excretion patterns as some experts. Hahhahahaha you simpletons, you've learned your lesson here. Think before you open your mouths.


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  13. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    There was plenty of evidence to suggest povetkin was clean from the start, he was already under the limit for one. Some posters on here felt if they just kept shouting PEDs hard enough that it would become true
     
  14. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of them can't even get themselves to post on this thread. They owned themselves with their stupidity.

    WHY ARE YOU ALL SO QUIET???


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  15. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    They are the same people who defend mayweather to the heavens even after the bj Penn incident proved its corruption yet they still want to call povetkin a cheat after being proved innocent