Meldrick taylor vs julio cesar chavez

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think that after Meldrick Taylor did not respond to Steeles question of "are you ok?"......Steele should have then somehow bought off the 6 seconds that remained and stalled the fight so that it could go to the scorecards.

    Maybe Steele should have said, "time out folks, lets wait for these few seconds to tick off so that my countryman Meldrick Taylor has a chance at it at the scorecards.":nut
     
  2. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::rofl :good
     
  3. DAGOBOY

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    he shouldve told chavez to get in his corner like 10 times while stopping the count. then there would be no controversy. just thinking of the bute v andrade fight.
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Bad stoppage for me. **** the rulebook; it's an unwritten law that a fighter who gets back up half-way through the count and is obviously fine continues. Steele gave countless fighters the opportunity to continue throughout his career in much worse condition than Taylor without questioning them.

    That said, he let Taylor get away with about a zillion low blows in that fight without penalising him.
     
  5. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What steele should had also done, was tell taylor to come forward like most refeere do when a fighter is hurt to see wether meldrick was staggering or not steady on his feet.
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    One of the greatest "Right" hands ever thrown by Chavez in a prize fight. (Under pressure)
    Still can't believe it when I re-watch this fight, Taylor was at his absolute best.

    What a night, Either way.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Referees do that when the fighter responds to his verbalizations.......obviously Taylor did not respond to Steele when he questioned him "are you OK"

    ....had Taylor signaled to Steele, either verbally or by raising his gloves up as fighters often do when knocked down to show the ref they're fit to go........then Steele may very well have then asked Taylor to step foward and prove it.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Unwritten rule?:huh

    Name me a fight where a ref allows a fight to continue without the fallen fighter signalling to him that he's ready and wants to continue?
     
  9. TheBradyHawkes

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    I go back and forth on this, but usually come to the conclusion that this fight deserved to see the final bell, and with it a Taylor victory. Chavez deserves credit for pushing Meldrick to the end, but Steele should have let this go to the cards.
     
  10. IvyLeague

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    Marquez/Arguello at 130.. Wuts your take?
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    What does this have to do with this thread?
     
  12. IvyLeague

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    NOthing. I just know that you're a big fan of Marquez and i made this thread earlier so id like ur opinion.
     
  13. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    I was a big Chavez guy at the time, and I defended the stoppage- Taylor did not respond to questions, and Richard Steele is not a time keeper.

    I can see how painful it must have been for Taylor and his fans, though. Truth is, its just one of those things. Could have gone either way.
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

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    Steele did nothing wrong - he followed protocol like he was supposed to.
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez is too skilled and well rounded not to be in the fight, but 130-135 is Arguello's prime fighting weight.

    I've opiniated on this before......

    At 126 lbs , JMM strongest weight, he wins a UD in a competitive fight.

    At 130 lbs, Arguello imo takes a razor close but deserved decision.

    The heavier the weight the better Arguello's chances become.

    135 lbs, Arguello UD.

    Height, reach, and punching power would be the key to an Arguello victory at either 130 lbs or 135 lbs.



    It must be said that Arguello was not in his prime at 126 lbs, and on the flip side JMM was not at his prime at 130 lbs and even further from his prime at 135 lbs.


    My respects to Alexis Arguello, I'm one of the few here that believes he would have had a good chance at beating Duran at 135 lbs.