Meldrick vs Chavez

Yup it was about 4 seconds. But that was after Steele repeatedly asked him if he wanted to continue.

It is not the ref's responsibility to make a fighter want to fight.

 

it does not even matter to me as long as it was less than five seconds. it would have taken jcc at least three seconds to go where taylor was because it was the 12th round and he was also tired to he could have thrown a maximum of two punches, if taylor does not clinch as soon as he saw jcc.


taylor deserved a decision

 

IMO, Taylor was physically damage and it shows in his current stage.

The most likely scenario would have been an immediate rematch, considering the pull Chavez had back then.

I see Chavez physically beating him again in the rematch, not neccesarily winning the fight, but doing irreparable damage. So I think the outcome would have been the same in regards to his condition.

Nonetheless I respect your opinion.

 

It's not up to the ref to decide the fight - if he's out of it, he should stop the fight. It's not his job to first consider who might be winning or losing before determining whether or not to stop the fight or not.

Like I mentioned before - the Leonard vs Benitez fight. The ref handed a TKO down in the last few seconds instead of letting the clock tick down, knowing full-well that Benitez wasn't really in danger of getting injured because it was in the final seconds.. so why not just let it go to the judges? The ref's job isn't to keep score. He is only supposed to make on the spot decisions and act in the here-and-now. He doesn't look at the clock, doesn't keep score in his head - only look at how much damage is being taken.

It's unfortunate for Taylor, but it's Taylor and Duva's own fault(s). Taylor got beat-down, and it would have been a gift by the ref for him to get the win. The ref's job isn't to give gifts, it's just to act on the condition of the fighter standing in front of him, at that moment, and nothing else.

It isn't about "deserving" anything.

 

Amen. If deserve enters a referee's head, its a corrupt referee. I am a boxing referee, we are taught as much. Treat every second independently of any other.

If I were Steele, Id tell people to shove this arguement. It was my call, the guy if front of me was wrecked, looked like he'd been in a fight with a jackhammer, and I made a call. And guess what, he's a ****ed up former fighter today. I don't care what the tape shows, Steele wasn't watching HBO, he was watching Meldrick Taylor and Meldrick Taylors eyes. And I'd imagine with him staring at Duva like an amateur, committing a cardinal sin, his eyes looked damn vacant and unresponsive.

10 seconds, 2 seconds. The fight was over.

 

I honestly believe had he been paying attention to the referee like you always should when you get dropped, he'd have been allowed to finish and win the fight.

He made a major mistake, though, and flushed it away. He didn't deserve much of anything, he blew the 10 seconds after the knockdown. The right reaction would have gotten him his win.

But, I can agree with you, Meldrick was ahead. I had him winning 9 rounds.

 

This has always been my opinion regarding this fight:

Taylor was out boxing chavez, but ]JCC was winning the fight (made obvious by the amount of damage his whole body absorbed) and a KO is a KO, regardless of how many seconds were left. Steele was able to judge - better than anyone else, how hard JCC was hitting Taylor with those right hands throughout the fight. Taylor was landing flashy combinations, but Chavez would eat those in order to land his one big shot and it payed off.

 

Hmm. I think you should get your facts straight.

The rules of boxing: when a boxer is knocked down and manages to get up before the end of the ten count, the referee is obligated to ask the fighter if he is OK. Following a positive response, the referee will then ask the guy to walk a few steps toward him, allowing the ref to do a final check, and then he will let the fight continue.

Steele followed his training and he did exactly what the rules call for. He asked If Meldrick was OK. Meldrick did not respond. He asked him if he was OK again. Yes TWICE. Both times Meldrick failed to respond.

The ref stops the fight because that is what he was supposed to do. These are the rules.

Taylor lost, Chavez won. Get over it. It was all fair. One of the greatest wins. Ever.

And Taylor did not dominate this fight until the last round. When people watch the videos, it's easy to be swayed by the ridiculously biased american commentary. Taylor may have been ahead, but lot of the rounds were very even.

A classic fight. Would anyone have begrudged Taylor winning? Hell no. The fight of his career. A great performance. But unfortunately for him, Chavez pulled it out the bag, right at the last.

 

Agreed.

 

Meldrick Won the fight ...his knockdown didnt deserve a stoppage in the last round was just in one round he threw a mad combo , bout 1000 punches and tired himself out. If i remember even his corner were sayin , stay out the way ..and its yours ..3 mins thats all ..its yours. To be honest i dont think Steele realised there was only 2SECS left.

 

If that stoppage was at any other point in the fight then no one would have any complaints... Taylor wasn't fit to fight on so the stoppage was right IMO.

 

bs. taylor didn't respond to steele at all. steele's responsibility was to stop that fight and he did his job. fights are not over until the bell rings.