Precisely. Great punchers almost always have some innate physical advantage over their foes, but they also need to spend hundreds of hours in the gym honing their skills in order to get to that point. You can't just stick any old farmboy in the ring and expect them to punch with truly world class power. And even if they could, it's nothing that technique and proper training couldn't improve.
This thread has started badly and gone down hill from there. Prety much everything that people have put forward as an "absurd myth", has been something that is completely unknowable or unprovable one way or the other.
According to Steward and another old fella who trained him before he went pro always maintained that the power was there he just fought to win a amateur match not a 15round pro fight. But I agree with you 2 punchers are born and made.
That Ali could dance for 15 rounds. He couldn't even at his absolute best, even against the biggest challenge of his life against Liston he was flat footed after 5 rounds. Not exactly a myth but more hyperbole that's been spewed up dozens of times. That if it were not for the long count Dempsey would've KO'd Tunney. That Willie Pep won a round without even throwing a punch.
No, a myth would imply a substantial body of evidence to the contrary. These positions are all highly plausible, or in some cases probable.
Impossible to measue of course. But I can't imagine anyone hitting harder than Foreman, and if they did, it surely couldn't have been much harder.
That Muhammad Ali was so fast he could turned off the light switch and get into bed before the room went dark... ...but I think that one might true :huh
I think 60's Ali could dance for 15. Chuvalo, Terrell... Anyway the Ketchel-Papke sucker punch is a myth. No mas.