Merchant talks Pac vs Hatton & DLH.

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  1. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Not natural 130 pounders. Great fighters, but all came from 122-126.
     
  2. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So who is the top 130 pounders to test Pac's chin??? Morales beat Chavez & Famoso, the top 130 pounder after PBF vacated it. Pac takes Morales Punches & KOed him twice. Pac has nothing to prove at 130.
     
  3. Nestea

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    You are right theres nothing for Pac to prove at 130, If anyone wants him there they should catch Pacquiao at 135.

    Pacquiao in the other hand has new hard challenges waiting for him at 135. He should prove fighting at least 5 lightweights before even forcing his way through Hatton or Hoya.
     
  4. bulakenyo

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    Nothing to prove?

    You dont mean that. If he's so far ahead of anyone in his class, he needs to beat all the champs in his division. And he needs to win big.

    If I ran Pac's career, I'd unify the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO 130 lbs titles.

    And after PBF left, Famoso and Chavez became the top fighters by default. PBF was just a notch better than the other fighters at 130.

    A power punching 130 guy would be a Corrales, Valero type.
     
  5. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    5 fights might be too long. On the third fight. If he fairs well, it will be a good guage if he has biz fighting the likes of hatton.

    If his wins are just so so I don't want pac to get brutalized at 140lbs..
     
  6. bandeedo

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    nothing to prove? here we go with the pac nuts getting out of control again. the reason he is fighting jmm is because he couldnt prove he was better in their first fight. we are not even discussing 135lbs where pac is untested but you have allready declared him unbeatable. does this silliness ever stop?
     
  7. Silvermags

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    AHA! Maybe you are a Guzman fan? Valero fan? Don't tell me you are chris john fan!

    the way you talk there is sooooo much hatred in you?!

    SO who are you insinuating that pac should fight (aside from JMM himself) for you to believe that he has nothing to prove at 130lbs category. :deal

    I'm interested in logical discussion instead of just some BS stuff. Kindly elaborate..
     
  8. bandeedo

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    i am a fan of boxing first and foremost, and then i am a fan of pac. saying he has nothing to prove at 130 is an insult to jmm who has earned more respect than that from knowledgable fans. you have got pac sweeping through everyone on up to 140 when many people feel diaz would pound him into submission at 135.
    it is not hatred that triggers this kind of response but simple shock at how incredibly small minded certain groupies are. you have got to be aware that there are some very knowledgable posters on here (myself not included) that can make a pretty accurate assessment and comparison of pac, so when you got him leaping tall buildings in a single bound it comes off as tiring. it would not be so bad if it happened occasionaly but thread after thread with the same group pushing the same fantasy gets really old really fast.
    hopefully there is enough logic in my post for your taste.
     
  9. jupzrooni

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    pac should clean up the sf division first before eyeing these ridiculous fights...

    but of course he can't because he will move up to the lightweight division...

    man i want to see him against joan guzman.. but it seems unlikely now..except if JG moves up in LW and was able to nab one of the belts and call pac's attention...
     
  10. jupzrooni

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    :yep :yep :yep
     
  11. bulakenyo

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    :thumbsup
     
  12. Silvermags

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    I like the way you write but you missed the point? who are the boxers you are referring? (I myself never claimed I'm a knowlegable poster).

    Unless you tell me who are you referring aside from BEATING JMM at 130lbs. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say..

    If you read my previous posts I always considered pac as the underdog for 135lbs..

    So what is this fuss all about?
     
  13. bulakenyo

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    I dont know about him, but the fighters I want Pac to "wipe out" are the current 130 champs.

    I dont care if theyre better or worse fighters than JMM, all I know is he needs to clear out the division to absolutely show that there's nothing left to prove in your division, you need to get all the belts, and defend it a couple of times to make it truly legitimate and show that you are the king. Not just on paper, not just on the p4p lists. You have the hardware, and you have the history to back it all up when you decide to go up a weight class.
     
  14. PacDbest

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    After Pac dominates D Diaz & Hatton at the end of the year, Nobody will be demanding for Pac to clean up 130. All of us will be Crying for Pac vs PBF or Juan Diaz.

    Who was Valero, Guzman & Soto when Pac makes a Plan to conquer Barrera & Morales???? They're all nobody then. Even JMM is still an unknown commodity. After Pac KOs JMM, It's misssion accoplished for Pac 130 & Below. His legacy will be made. Anything above 135 will be just Icing on the cake & extra Millions in Pac's Pocket.
     
  15. bulakenyo

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    WOW.

    That's.. wow. :yep

    Honestly, when Pac wanted to go up to 130, I thought it was ridiculous already and he's only gonna have a hard time beating the top guys in the division. I think he's fortunate to still retain his speed and power at such a high weight.

    Fighting the guys at 140-150 is just too crazy. Im a fan but he needs to take care of business where he is right now, before thinking of going to bigger things.

    I mean if the fans like you are so confident that Pac is just too much for Soto, Valero, Little Tyson, and all the champs at 130, then he could easily clear the division in about 6 more fights before going up, right? It'll only take a year and a half, maybe. That's not too long.

    Cant you wait a year and a half more, and see him become the undisputed champ, before he fights Hatton and Floyd or whoever?
     
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