Merqui Sosa - The Story

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Sosa was always wobbly on his legs. He was one funny awkward gangly kind of guy.

    I thought it was premature. So do many others.
    It's no big deal. Yes, many other stopagges are a bit too quick too.
     
  2. lefthook31

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    A fighter has to answer back or its the ref's discretion whether to stop it. Merquis trainer Tommy Gallahger who has one of the biggest mouths in boxing had something to do with creating the stink about the premature stoppage, yelling and screaming. Merqui should have fought back rather than take a bunch of unanswered punches, they know the drill. He was badly hurt.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Of course it's the referee's call.
    He called it too early, IMO.

    RJJ was throwing shots at him for only about 8 seconds without reply, and almost all of them missed or were actively blocked/slipped by Sosa.
    I don't think that's necessarily a case of a fighter waiting too long, or taking too much, to retaliate.
    But opinions will differ.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Except for about 6-7 of them, of which 3 rocked his neck back
     
  5. lefthook31

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    Right, and thats what usually makes the ref call it.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Maybe 3 or 4 hit him direct and not just his gloves.

    Not sure what the issue is though.
    I think the fight was called premature. Obviously there's a contrary opinion. I certainly have no wish to change anyone's opinion on this.
     
  7. Bobo

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    how would he respond to that many punches by roy with his hand speed. if he tried to sneak a counter punch in he would have been open. didn't look like he was going down. anyways, i thought the stoppage was premature because it looked to me like he was starting to move his head when it was stopped. but who knows how badly he was hurt, since he has such an unorthodox style. maybe one clean punch would end it but I don't think so.
     
  8. SLAKKA

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    So much for your knowledge of boxing. You'd make a great ref getting people killed.
    I was at MSG just back from ringside watching this fight.
    If ever an opponent got outclassed it was Sosa this night.
    Alotta morons like u booed...just and they cheered to the heavens the night Duran was damm near allowed to kill Davy Morre.
     
  9. frankenfrank

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    i m not like that . If u paid more attention 2 d vid in d 1st post u might have noticed that Sosa should have received a mandatory standing 8 , which might have helped him 2 recover . he took lots of punishment in most of his important fights , but was competitive . vs jones he didn't seem much competitive up 2 then , but d ref did not act according 2d rules of d time , place and governing body at stake .
     
  10. SLAKKA

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    Thanks 4 suggestion a video when ive made it clear i was ringside that night.
    Your low iq is plaguing away at you again.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good 4u that u were ringside . when was d last time u watched this fight ? when u were ringside ?
    here's a better reminder :
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RztFkl61-4I[/ame]
    Merqui Sosa should have been given d standing 8 count .
    Sosa was taking punishment but he almost always did , and very few don't .
    He might have been stopped if d fight was allowed 2 continue , but so was Jones .
    Jones took punishment as soon as d 1st rd of this fight and i think he was close 2 punching himself out . maybe he could go on , maybe not 4 much longer , but what about d referee bypassing his obligation 2 give Sosa d standing 8 by d rules of that place , time and governing body / authority ? y do u ignore it ?
     
  12. SLAKKA

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    Oh thats right
    the ringside press said that too
    right????
     
  13. big man

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    Yeah Sosa was so likely to rally back he nearly fell on his face when he was trying to attack the ref. :nut

    He was done and dusted.

    This bull**** contrversy is the only thing that has allowed him to save any face from this fight. Roy whipped him badly and made him look even more crude and clumsy than he actually was (no mean feat that).
     
  14. El Bujia

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    :lol:
     
  15. fists of fury

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    Totally bull**** stoppage.

    I'm really surprised so many good posters here are calling it justifiable. Sosa was hit with two, maybe three solid shots along the ropes, but he was fine. So fine in fact, that he pushed the ref right after the stoppage.

    Roy was windmilling...by that I mean just flurrying, hoping to convince the ref to stop the fight. Most of those shots were just cuffing punches, hittng arms and shoulders.

    It was not a sustained beating by any means. Sosa was not in deep trouble at all. This is the problem I have with the 'rule' that a fighter must fight back off the ropes to prevent a stoppage.
    Why?
    If the fighter is able to defend himself, is not in serious trouble, and is obviously trying to ride out the storm, why MUST he punch back?
    I think we're all experienced enough observers to tell when a fighter is genuinely in deep trouble and when he's not.
    Sosa, imo, was not.

    To put it in perspective, Ali took a far worse beating on the ropes against Foreman, but Clayton was a good enough ref to see what was going on.

    Also, Richard Steele copped a ton of **** for stopping the first Tyson/Ruddock fight, and Ruddock was hurt far worse than Sosa was. He was wobbly, a glazed look on his face, and had his hands down at his sides. (I think that stoppage was also a tad premature, but anyway.)