Message To Deontay Wilder From Eddie Hearn (VIDEO)

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  1. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They're not paying for pull, that's not the only aspect that fighters pay for when they fight one another. They're paying for the right to fight the champ. Just like they did with aplomb against Prince Charles.

    Why all of a sudden is it an issue? What Joshua opponent to date was paid their draw worth not the promo value AJ gains from having beaten them? Just Wlad init? Why is it no problem to pay lesser mandos more than a vol uni? Seems to me fans should be pushing for the uni and AJ ought to be happy to pay for it because he's not paying for Parker's draw nor is he paying for Parker's average salary or monetary worth, he's paying for the gains he makes in his own draw and salary after having beaten Parker.
     
  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Wilder wanted a big slice of a pie he has not yet earned.

    When he beats the top guys he can have it.
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol too much information,put me off my breakfast.
     
  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Has anyone here seen Sporting Icons coward of the county video about Wilder,so funny it’s gonna go down in boxing folk lore that one?
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I expect Hearn to truly low ball Wilder if the fight is in the U.K. Joshua's stiff ass won't do what Hatton, 40Cal, Degale, Framp and many other Brits have done. He won't travel to the states. They want to continue to call Wilder a coward from afar, and hide behind what Wilder says and act like he's ducking Joshua. Hearn is truly a scumbag.
     
  6. Gymbot

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    At least Charles Martin had a more prestigious belt. Parker will be paid a lot more than Martin was for his WBO trinket. He doesn't really bring much else to the table. Parker should be jumping at the opportunity. Imagine if he wins - then he is in the boss seat.
     
  7. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    "Hide behind what Wilder says"

    So you're referring to the stupid stuff Wilder says, lol,
     
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  8. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Parker beats Wilder. Only thing Wilder has over Parker is power and Parker has a good chin. Easy UD or late TKO for him. AJ destroys Wilder in any round he wants to. Wilder isn't even top5 in the division. He's a protected WBC American hype job... no more.
     
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  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree that they should be paying for the gains Joshua would make as a draw after beating Parker, not what he is actually worth.

    But the current situation can't be compared to the Martin scenario. Joshua didn't have much leverage there, Martin had the belt, Joshua had no belt, so he stumped up the cash to over pay Martin to grab that easy belt and Joshua swallowed his pride and took the smaller payday in the hope of winning the belt and that it would take him to another level in regards to marketability.

    With Joshua/Parker now. Joshua is a much bigger draw having won the belt from Martin and then unifying with Wlad. Beating Parker won't make Joshua a bigger draw in the UK like the Martin and Wlad fights did as he's saturated the market already. Which is why Parker has less leverage, Parker needs to beat Joshua to increase his marketability just like when Joshua needed to fight Martin and Wlad. Now that Parker is in the same situation Joshua was in with Martin and Wlad why is it only Joshua who should concede in negotiations to make the fight when Parker has the most to gain financially from a win? So while I agree with your logic I disagree with your conclusion.

    Also mandatory challengers get over paid not because Joshua and Hearn want to over pay them, but because they are forced to as they get a set split. So using the example that mandatory challengers get a bigger split than their worth as a reason why Parker should, is pointless as Joshua and Hearn have no control how much they pay a mandatory unlike a voluntary like this unification fight.
     
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  10. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    When Hearn tucks AJ into bed at night, he checks under the bed to make sure the Wilder Monster is not there.
     
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  11. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To the first point what I made red, all you said is this is different because Joshua doesn't have as much to gain. Which is fair enough if y'all don't feel like AJ's stock will go up enough to rationalize him paying Parker that's fine, but don't try to spin it like the situation's entirely different, they're very similar. I don't know that AJ's stock would improve much off the back of Parker myself, but the point is draw is not the only thing to consider. It's silly to keep pointing to draw like that's all they focus on in negotiations.

    To the second point what I've made blue, I think we've a failure to communicate. It doesn't matter if AJ or Hearn control the price of the opponent or not once a market value has been set there is a precedence. AJ opponents have a value being an opponent of his they don't otherwise have and since they are the co-star of the show he's going to have to learn to work with them.

    A product's value is what the market says it is not what you'd like. You can cheapen the product, but you can't force a customer to pay more than they're willing. It's the same. AJ's opponents gain value by becoming an AJ opponent. He can save money by fighting people no one has ever heard of or some such but he's still paying for them to be his opponent.
     
  12. madballster

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    The hilarious thing is Wilder vs. Brezeale won't generate 10% of what AJ vs. Parker will generate :lol:
     
  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Wilder is good at complaining.

    He is not so good at stepping up.

    AJ fought Wlad in 20 fights and is now going after Parker.

    While Wilder fights Bermaine again and now most likely DB.

    One guys likes stepping up, the other guy doesn't.

    Lets be fair.
     
  14. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearn will offer Wilder as little as he possibly can regardless of who Wilder beats. Same as he is doing with Parker.
     
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  15. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    hatton did it to get his career defining fights when it mattered
    Calzaghe only went when the two greatest fighters of his era were past prime, in their 40's, and dethroned by younger champs
    BIG difference

    but I agree, it would do Joshua no harm at all fighting in the US
     
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