Message to GYM, H. Grant, GYM boxers and Librado Andrade about disloyal competition

For those not from Montreal, GYM is the other big promoter in Montreal, along with Interbox. Interbox are Bute's club and GYM are Jean Pascal's and Alcine's club. Bute is more popular than Jean Pascal and Alcine in Montreal, but Pascal and Alcine are also very popular. In the past, Pascal called Bute out in a rather disrespectful way. Nothing came of it. Alcine also spoke some bad words about Bute, but then started speaking nicely of him again. It seems Pascal and Alcine resent Bute's popularity and success, but not as much as GYM, who think Bute's popularity is bad for their own business, because he overshadows Pascal, at the moment.

So, what do they do? They try to get rid of the competition - they try their best to get Bute to lose by helping Bute's opponents, in preparation for their fights against him.

For example, in preparation for Bika's fight in the eliminator against Bute, Bika was taken in with open arms by GYM, he sparred with GYM boxers and was given tactical advice by the trainers at the gym, who know Bute well; still, it didn't do the trick, but there was quite a negative reaction in the press to what was considered disloyal competition.

Now, GYM are going overboard in trying to give Bute his first loss. They have trained Andrade for two months in Montreal, with Howard Grant, one of the best trainers in the world, and co-main trainer at GYM, training with him full-time, to help him get over Stieglitz. Andrade will continue to train with Grant and GYM for his mandatory challenge against Bute, in autumn. Please watch this post-fight conference, where he thanks GYM, his GYM trainer, Howard Grant and his GYM sparring partners.

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In this interview, he says he didn't come to Montreal chasing Bute.

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Andrade is not being truthful when he says that he didn't come to Montreal to chase Bute. Here's what he said a couple of weeks earlier:

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So...Andrade clearly DID come to Montreal chasing Bute, despite what he says now. And GYM are clearly doing everything possible to help Andrade beat Bute:

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GYM want Bute out of the picture in Montreal, as much as possible, because he's bad for their business, they think. So they are prepared to do whatever it takes to help Bute's opponents beat him. This is disloyal competition. It is unfair, but hey! Boxing is a business...this is not about morality or niceness.

What GYM fail to realise is that Bute is good for boxing in Montreal. If boxing in Montreal is on the up, that is good for GYM too! Not least, it's always good to have some friendly competition, and if Bute goes down the drain, GYM would be relatively better off, but in absolute terms, they would lose out, because fewer casual fans would be coming to the fights...

GYM are doing their best to help Bute's opponents beat him but the better they are, the better Bute looks when he beats them. And beat them, he will...:yep

So...here's a message from me to GYM and Howard Grant:

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And here's my message to the GYM boxers who spar with Bute's opponents:

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And here's my message to Librado Andrade:

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(Maxime, Pharaoh and quebecwarrior, and all the other posters from Montreal, please correct me if I said anything that wasn't true/accurate!:good )

 

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I don't want Pascal or anyone else to be less popular than Bute...I want them all to be very, very popular because that's good for boxing, which is good for all of them, individiually.:good

 

How would GYM and Pascal feel if Interbox, Stephane Larouche and Bute went out of their way to prepare and train Miranda and everyone else to beat Pascal?

Am I making too much out of this? I don't want to make too much out of it...I am just making out of it as much as it deseves to be made out of...I'm writing a message on a forum, which they might never even have the chance to read; I'm not making a big fuss...

As to Bute and Interbox, they probably couldn't care less if GYM do their utmost to stop Bute in his tracks; they are probably more motivated to beat their opponents trained by GYM...I would be!:yep

 

Hey, mate! I am angry but even more so - disappointed...

I don't want to say anything bad about Alcine; the Montreal press reported some ill-will and resentment towards Bute in the past, but now, as you say, he is nice to Bute and wishes him all the best, which is great! This is how all boxers in Montreal should treat each other. I applaud Alcine for that, but not for sparring with Bute's opponents to prepare them to beat him (e.g. Andrade)...that seems a bit two-faced to me...

How would Alcine feel if Bute was all nice to him to his face and then sparred all of Alcine's opponents before their fight with Alcine to prepared them to beat Alcine?:huh

Anyway...as I said...I'm not making a big fuss of this, although I am disappointed, particularly with Andrade, whom I like and respect very much. He lied and he takes advantage of other's disloyalty to their fellow club/club's boxers...

In normal circumstances I would say: "What's the big deal? Why not take all the help he can get?" But Andrade wants to be loved and respected as a human being first and formost - he sets higher standards for himself, as he constantly reminds everyone - so, I feel I have a right to be disappointed in such circumstances.:good

 

I apologise for jumping at your throat.

The point is, and I thought it was obvious, as I spelled it out: Andrade lied when he said he didn't target Bute. Of course he does! That is why he came to Montreal and that is why he fought the IBF eliminator fight! Also, he took advantage of the fact that GYM bears an ill-feeling to Bute/Interbox and said: my enemy's enemy is my friend. Now, as you say, this is boxing and everyon tries to do whatever it takes to get the edge - I am fine with that! So what is the problem? The problem is that Andrade is a very nice guy who wants to be thought as a very nice guy and insists on being judged first and formost as a man and human being, not as a fighter - and at the same time, he takes advantage of GYM's ill-feeling...it's just not cricket, under these circumstances.

I like Andrade and Bika - even though Bika did the same as Andrade. But Bika never said: Look at me, I am SUCH a nice person, and I want everyone to love and respect me first and formost for what a great guy I am, did he? Andrade does! If he sets himself against a higher standard, he deserved more love and respect than Bika, but he should also respect to be taken to account when he falls short, as I think he does, in this situation.