Mexican wars

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Jel, Mar 30, 2022.


  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    7,833
    13,127
    Oct 20, 2017
    Nice little highlights video that popped up in my YouTube feed showing highlights of Mexico v Mexico fights through the years.

    Nothing revelatory here but a good overview and worth watching all these individually if you missed any.

    This content is protected
     
  2. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    7,833
    13,127
    Oct 20, 2017
    Fights/fight series highlights included:
    Carlos Zarate-Alfonso Zamora
    Julio Cesar Chavez-Mario Martinez
    Marco Antonio Barrera-Erik Morales
    Erik Morales-Guty Espadas
    Israel Vasquez-Johnny Gonzalez
    Juan Manuel Marquez-Marco Antonio Barrera
    Israel Vasquez-Rafael Marquez
    Francisco Vargas-Orlando Salido
    Juan Francisco Estrada-Carlos Cuadras
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  3. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,238
    7,119
    Sep 11, 2018
    I was thinking the other day of my favorite Mexico vs. Mexico fights. I wish there was more footage available of Herrera-Martinez II because that looked incredible and reports say people felt it was the best fight they’ve seen. I really like Medel-Pimentel too. That sort of flies under the radar.

    Zárate-Zamora I still maintain is the biggest all Mexico fight ever. You had two powerhouses, unbeaten, prime, fascinating backstory, and while never was Olivares in popularity, they were plenty popular and the winner stood to be numero uno. It delivered. The Mexican Hagler-Hearns.

    Barrera-Morales I & III were classics. I don’t know what happened with II. Barrera fought with no passion.

    Vazquez-Marquez series, from the first fight to the third, it got better each time. Vazquez also had a great series with Oscar Larios, which included a wicked one round battle to open up the series. Vazquez-Gonzalez another gem. Man, is Vazquez not the modern day Danny Lopez or Bobby Chacon? Pure entertainment.

    Marquez-Barrera was worth the wait. What a battle that was.

    Olivares-Castillo I & II were thoroughly good too. They packed The Forum with their fights. Castillo could take Rubens best, but couldn’t match his skill. He did make Ruben think more than he was accustomed to though.

    Mexico vs. Mexican/American has produced gems too. Chacon-Limon IV might be the best fight ever and Zamora-Sandoval is one of the greatest fights ever seen at The Olympic.
     
  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    7,833
    13,127
    Oct 20, 2017
    Great post, Chris. I completely agree about the fights you’ve mentioned - they’re all great. Herrera-Martinez 2 is such a mouthwatering fight from the six minutes of highlights that exist. Surely the whole thing was filmed and exists somewhere?!

    Another good one is Herrera-Castillo 2. Not an out-and-out war like some of those you’ve mentioned but a high quality technical battle that could have gone either way. I’d mention the Herrera-Olivares fights as well but the first was a pretty flat performance from Ruben and the second was close and could have gone to Olivares but neither fight set the pulse racing.

    Yes, good point about Mexican v Mexican-American battles. And there’s the all Mexican-American fights too (Lopez-Chacon immediately springs to mind).
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2022
    Bronze Tiger, Clinton and ChrisJS like this.
  5. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

    1,566
    1,698
    Jun 23, 2021
    Medel-Pimental was simply a great fight. Pimental dropped Medel early till Medel slowly take control and punished him in the later rounds.

    Garza-Meza is often spoken as one of the most action packed fight in only 1 round.

    Zamora-Sandoval was brutal. Just insane back and forth till eventually Zamora won by TKO
     
  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    7,833
    13,127
    Oct 20, 2017
    How so?

    I mean… good fight… very good fight, in fact.

    But ‘best ever’?

    I’m not sure it would crack my top 10.
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  7. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,343
    5,277
    Jun 23, 2018
    Juan Marquez vs Marco Antonio Barrera is the best boxing match that I’ve ever seen
     
  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,343
    5,277
    Jun 23, 2018
    I agree
     
  9. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,343
    5,277
    Jun 23, 2018
    I watched it on pay per view …and I was like “ That was a fight “
     
    Jel likes this.
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    18,216
    14,036
    Jun 30, 2005
    Mexican War of Independence
    Mexico-Comanche Conflicts
    Mexican-American War
    Yaqui Wars
    Texan Revolution
    Napoleon III's intervention in Mexico
    Mexican Civil War
    Pershing Expedition
    World War II
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,541
    32,314
    Jan 14, 2022
    For action no but for the technical skills on display ? it's definitely up there. That fight is what you call a throwback just so much skill involved.
     
    Jel likes this.
  12. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    7,833
    13,127
    Oct 20, 2017
    Oh yeah, it’s a top fight from a skill point of view no doubt but not quite as action packed as some of the other Mexican classics. It’s a really good fight though.
     
  13. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    21,934
    6,105
    Sep 21, 2013
    In terms of pure skill I always preferred the American and Cuban style of Boxing. But the Mexicans are the toughest. Their hearts are gigantic. You have to nail them down to beat them.

    Good video Jel. Gracias.
     
  14. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

    5,519
    7,071
    Aug 17, 2011
    The best Mexican wars are fights nobody remembers...those nights at the Olympic Auditorium where guys went toe to toe for however long the fight lasted, and then made an extra few hundred picking up all the quarters thrown into the ring. Jimmy Lennon Sr saw a lot of those fights; it was said that his bald head was covered with scars from being hit with coins thrown into the ring to celebrate a good fight.
     
  15. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

    366
    474
    Mar 27, 2019
    I think I have likely shared this fight awhile ago but this is a hell of a fight
    This content is protected