Mexican who has a chance to win a 4Division Championship?

Montiel has the best chance by far.

 

Saul ********* or Montiel

 

I honestly think Marquez could beat Alexander or Bradley.

 

Barrera if matched with Soto.

 

Alexander wouldn't surprise me. Marquez is far superior in terms of pure acumen. Bradley far less likely. He's EXACTLY the kind of fighter who has troubled Juan Manuel Marquez throughout his career.

 

I have this feeling that Marquez's chance of doing it decreased dramatically with Urango's loss to Alexander.

 

Really? I feel like Marquez's most difficult opponents have been runners and other counterpunchers with speed. Even then he wasn't outmatched. I don't see Bradley having any singular trait developed enough to trouble him. He's very well rounded for sure; decent boxing skills and ring iq, footwork and movement, good defence and varied offence, decent speed and not featherfisted...but nothing that I could see stifling Marquez's ability to lead or counter effectively.


Also, Saul seems to have the build to be able to accomplish this in the future.


I wouldn't be surprised if Oscar seeths whenever this fact is discussed. I know as a US Born Latin American it would **** me off if I achieved a feat none of my cultural countrymen had and didn't get any credit for it because of my birthplace and adjustment to US culture. :-(

 

It should be a piece a cake for all of them since according to some winning 8 titles in 8 different divisions is not really difficult in boxing today..

 

Good post. Bradley's footspeed and athleticism is as far as I took it, but I like what you're saying. Still, Bradley could EASILY exploit Marquez' stiffness and age at this point. ALL FEET. People still don't understand what happened in the Mayweather fight. ALL FEET. Always been the feet. We're talking about right now strictly for just the head to head. 70-30 Bradley. Kid is a warrior. Turbo jet. Prime. Marquez loses. Agree?

 

If not Marquez at 140 lbs, there will be a Mexican to get 4 and maybe even more in different weight classes.

There are just too many World title belts, interim, etc.... to go around nowdays for the feat to have any real relevance.

 

Why isn't ODLH considered a mexican, which formerly holds the record of 6? The chavez bout is touted as a mexican showdown, after ODLH beat their son (twice) - mexicans disowned odlh?

 

Hmm, this doesn't seem unlikely, but at the same time 144 all muscled up wasn't really conducive to his footspeed. It's hard to tell where he's at; he looked a lot quicker during Diaz 2, we'll have to see how he handles Katsidis. If he looks sharp, then he still would have a shot against Bradley. I don't think Bradley is the best at fighting backwards which would be his best bet, so eventually standing in front of Marquez will allow him to be timed and countered over his sometimes looping shots. Overhand right timed over the left hook, uppercuts and body shots mixed in exchanges, and left hooks over the right hand. It's feasible.

Alexander is ten times more predictable in his rhythm. The reach, feet and pop may give him an early advantage, but he could pull a 1st round Pacquiao and still get TKO'd on cuts after he gets combo'd to death from counters stifling that easily read metronome grunt-filled offensive rhythm. It would be like punching variables into an Mexican calculator solving for "W".

If Marquez could survive Maidana's punches, perhaps. I never underestimate his toughness, but at this age he's too hittable to be anything more than a live underdog.

Khan...Too long and fast for JMM at this stage, but again, perhaps more timeable than we might expect; think a tall Pac. Again, at this age JMM would just be a somewhat live underdog.

Then come the less worthy beltholders. JMM could take down Ortiz if he weathered the storm early. He'd at least decision Judah. But for the sake of historical prestige, a legitimate title would be preferred and isn't out of the question.

He's probably the best Mexican out there for the job considering his toughness and skills, but perhaps others have a greater advantage due to their physique and youth.

 

I love Marquez, but the fact that he didn't take the chance when it comes in his plate (vs Khan), which i understand by the way. It's because GBP making him a ladder in Khan's buildup. But still, if he's really a warrior, he can pull the upset. He got his chance.

Then came Diaz II, his performance confirms with me why he turned down the chance for a having the mexican dream - 4th major title in as many weight division.

 

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