Michael Carbajal vs Jung Koo Chang

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have 2 great light flyweights. Who wins this exciting match up between the puncher and the swarmer? Chang lost to Chiquita by the time he was past it, but at his absolute best would he be able to overwhelm the same Carbajal that knocked out Chiquita?
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  2. Mendoza

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    Nice JK Chang highlights. I guess watching him fire his rapid combinations in the highlights, some of which are low vs 108 pound men just isn't my thing. But this match him vs. a skilled puncher who has quite an uppercut and left hook( and good right hand and body punching too ) who would be far and away the better than the best Chang beat and you get what?

    Looking as his resume Chang was beaten ( Ko'd ) by Kittikasem and lost to H. Gonzalez via wide margin. Like 110-118, 111-118, and 109- 119. He was in his mid 20's, under 30 for these matches. The best two punchers and talents he fought who happen to be a little taller / longer than him. He was also beaten by Sot Chitalada who was not that good.

    Of course Carbajal is even taller than they are, and given Changs prefer operating style he would line right up to he skilled and powerful Cabajal, I see him winning via TKO. Swarming attackers tend to lose vs. good boxer punchers...especially when they lack power and they the good boxer - puncher can in fight and has a light out uppercut and left hook. That is the match-up.

    My $.02
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

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    have you actually watched Chang yet, or just these highlights lol
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

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    I like both guys, but think at their best Chang would take a close and entertaining decision
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    No, I watched him in full fights. He didn't beat anyone very good and fought in a newly formed division which lack depth. ( 108 )

    What puncher did Chang beat? My point. And how would Chang have to beat Carbjal? By getting up close is the best reply. What happens when the trade punches? There is my reasoning.
     
  6. Rubber Glove Sandwich

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    Prime Chang is something special. I like Carbajal but he's not winning this.
     
  7. PhillyPhan69

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    I suppose Chitalada is not any good? Nor Torres? Nor Zapata? Nor…never mind
     
  8. Fogger

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    These are two of the best light flyweights ever. Combined they were 87-8 and only lost to very high quality fighters. I think Carbajal's power will slow Chang down enough for Gonzalez to get the win. That being said, the Korean Hawk was great and I wouldn't bet a penny against either fighter.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

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    I like Chang in this one. He's busier and equally as dynamic. He doesn't just move in and bang, his movement is varied, though always centered around attack.

    If Chiquita couldn't stop an old Chang, Carbajal isn't stopping a young one.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Those guys aren't world class and have 10-13 losses on their resume. Yeah-- Chitalda had but 4 fights in his record when Chang fought him, and had beaten just 1 fighter with a winning record when Chang fought him. Fair right?

    When I look at Chang's pro record he has 5 matches vs fighters making the debut, and 2 matches guys with losing records. He fought 4 other guys with double dighted losses when he meet them! His record vs men who were ranked contenders beaten is very thin is a newly formed division.

    Does that really record really impress you? As you say never mind. Pick who you wish.
     
  11. Flo_Raiden

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    You’ve had history of hating on Chang for years so it’s not surprising that you pick Carbajal against Chang. Nothing wrong with thinking Carbajal can beat Chang but you have a bias and agenda when it comes to Chang. The fact that you even called a HOF fighter like Zapata, who is arguably one of the slickest and talented fighters of the lower weight division as “not world class” says a lot.
     
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  13. Flo_Raiden

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    This is a close fight for me although I think Chang might have the upper hand with his speed, dynamic offense, and unpredictable style. Carbajal does have the power to trouble Chang.

    One thing to note was that Carbajal was thoroughly thrashed by the constant pressure and swarming attack of Baby Jake Mtlala, who didn’t have much power and was tiny but was still able to stop Carbajal. I would think that Chang at his best would have been able to do a similar kind of punishment on Carbajal. But what a great fight this would have been.
     
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  15. HolDat

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    Chang's pressure might run him into a big shot. I believe a slugfest ensues...... flip a coin.
     
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