Michael Dokes

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Titan1, Jun 21, 2007.


  1. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, Dokes demons did him in. He had fast hands with some decent pop,good chin, nice combos. What a tragic story his life turned into...
     
  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Damn straight.:twisted:
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This means absolutely nothing. The qualities of a great fighter are not measured in physiogamy, not matter how enamored of the male body some fans may be. Many heavies, many heavyweight CHAMPIONS, have had shorter arms (not just reach) and made it work for them on angles and leverage, quickness of a punch to the target, not the least of which were Marciano and Tyson. Height and reach- and the lack thereof- are only deficits when a fighter does not utilize their inherent advantages. As I was taught, if you're shorter than your opponent fight far shorter: if you are taller fight way taller. Never come to a compromise.

    But I suppose by your logic, Julian Francis should be championship calibre.
     
  4. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hmmmm.. I got the rematch from 1983 on tape... I love that fight out in the Vegas desert heat.... Weaver landed the harder blows, but Dokes pulled the "Ali" trick of jabbing and circling to keep Weaver at bay.... I scored the fight 144 to 142 for Dokes..... BUT! The "Draw" seemed fair.... Late in the fight, Weaver was seen stalking / following, but not punching enough... Dokes always was jabbing, even while in retreat.... A very underrated heavyweight title fight.... It was close....:hey

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  5. nfc90210

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    This seems as good a place to ask this as any; is Dokes still in prison or has be been paroles?

    I just had a look for him on the Nevada Department of Correction Inmate Search and couldn't seem to find him.
     
  6. MRBILL

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    I have the "Dokes-Weaver" fights on tape....... Believe it or not.... I thought the 1983 remtch draw was fair........ Weaver was aggressive, and did land some big leather on Dokes, but Dokes had the better jab, speed, and lateral movement..... It was a great fight.... The draw was fine with me....:D

    MR.BILL

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    Dokes was lazy and a slacker in the gym..... Dokes was 216 pounds for Weaver in 1982, and then Dokes came in at 223 for the '83 rematch.... That showed me where Dokes' mind was at.....:shock:
     
  7. Bigcat

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    I used to watch James Broad box Michael Dokes in the gym when i was in my late teens, They had no fights to get prepared for and were just going at it for fun.. They were always so happy and jovial, clowning and saying how about some promoter come put the fight together for real.. Looking back its so sad to see Michael in jail and James die a vagrant in the gutter of hypothermia in some bis depot in southern nevada too proud to ask for money when he was flat broke.. All James had to do was ask for help and he had a lot of friends willing to do so.. Michael i am a little less forgiving about , all the skills in the world and he chooses over and over again to take the short easy route towards drugs and oblivian... I often look around the gym now and wonder who the next generation of Dokes' and Broads are , so many nowadays remind me of them .. Its a rough old world out there , and nice guys like Greg page pass away with so much love to give.. It makes no sense at all.....
     
  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Michael has been out of the joint for several months down, understand he was going back to Akron.
     
  9. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Providing that Michael stayed focused on his career, and not drugs, it would be a strong possibility he could have improved.Outside of a Holmes, or Page, not too many people could hang with him in a 3-4 year time period of winning the title in 1982.
     
  10. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Dokes died in August 2012.

    I do not have much sympathy for Dokes. To me he should have never had that belt as Joey Curtis put the screws to Weaver with a quick stoppage, plus I thought Weaver won the rematch.
     
  11. Vince Voltage

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  12. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he's dead, Weaver won the rematch and dokes went downhill when he muscled up. Plus drugs did him in. He was so good though for a while