Michael Hunter is overrated and does not belong in the Top 10

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CroBox29, Dec 2, 2021.

  1. miniq

    miniq Big Stiff Idiot Full Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Anyone especially at HW can look bad at any given moment

    Even the almighty himself.
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    He looked terrible but there was clearly something majorly off with him because he looked like a different fighter than he usually does. There was no snap or sharpness in his work after a few rounds, his head movement and combinations were nonexistent, he was loading up and swinging wildly all night, his stamina was poor, and his timing was off and he was alarmingly easy to hit. He shut Forrest out 80-72 x 3 in their first fight and whilst Forrest has improved so has he and that wasn't him at anywhere close to his best.
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    ''Hunter, 33, just looked off all night in this one, which is not to take anything away from Forrest. Even early, when I felt Hunter was winning rounds, he didn’t look near as sharp as he does when he’s at his best, and by the third Forrest started tagging him with clean lefts from the southpaw stance, which didn’t really stop.

    Hunter nearly vomited coming out before the sixth round, which would have been a medical TKO loss if he had (or if referee Arthur Mercante Jr had decided that what happened was enough), and he put in a hard charge in the seventh round, looking a bit desperate to get a finish. The finish didn’t come, and he had to get through the remainder of the fight.''
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  4. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Bah humbug Full Member

    Mar 17, 2017
    I agree. Even Usyk can have an off day.
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  5. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jan 4, 2018
    Size isn't everything and a prime example of this was Usyk beating a much bigger, physical monster in AJ recently. Size matters at heavyweight, but if you look at guys like Ali and Iron Mike..they are a similar size to Hunter and Usyk. Heavyweights have gotten bigger but it's only an advantage if you know how to use it. If you don't, it can actually cause more problems than it solves (See AJ's stiffness causing him nightmares against Usyk and Ruiz).

    Hunter can compete if he knows what he is doing.
  6. Finkel

    Finkel Active Member Full Member

    Feb 10, 2020
    It's probably because he prepared for De Mori, an opponent so overmatched that NYSAC wouldn't sanction it. Likely a shock to the system having a late-replacement like Forrest, who refuses to lie down.

    In the last two years he has fought Laughery (Boxrec 209), Mike Wilson (Boxrec 120) and then lined up De Mori (BoxRec 206). Laughery was bad enough for a supposed top 10 fighter, but he had just been released by Matchroom, so it is what it is. But the other opponent selections speak to someone who has checked out of their own career. He swerved Hrgovic to sign-up with Triller, and promised a big fight, but the match making has been abysmal. Maybe finances are still the issue, but who knows at this point.

    I have to question how badly he wants to fulfil his potential. He certainly doesn't warrant his ranking based on the last two years.
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Yeah it looked like he hadn't even bothered to train for the fight
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    Thread is moot. Hunter has already said he's going to bridger.

    I don't think the fire is there. The Hrgovic cancellation...the periods of inactivity...this shitty fight...

    I think that for whatever reason, he is mentally done with boxing. At least for the moment.
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  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 27, 2010
    Hunter looked awful. His stock has dropped.
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  10. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Hunter already beat Forest once early in his career. Forest got better over the years, while Hunter may have gotten over confident.

    Look at this interview from Hunter from a few days ago.
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    He said he was excellent condition. He also said he wanted to stop Forest. He had Forest hurt in the first round, but then he started getting caught himself.

    I think he may have been hit with a few punches that affected him. Lopez went into the Kambosos fight with a crap gameplan. It seems like Hunter went into his fight with a lousy gameplan as well.
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  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically stay humble Full Member

    Sep 5, 2016
    He clearly wasn't in excellent condition coming into the ring visibly flabby like that and tiring after a couple of rounds before nearly barfing. His gameplan was crap as well, but how much of that was down to the conditioning? Hard to implement any sort of plan when you're blowing out your arse.
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  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    Boxers always say they are in excellent condition even when they are not, what else are they going to say "yeah I barely trained for this bum."

    It was pretty obvious after rd 2 he was struggling. When was the last time you saw a fighter throw up in a fight? He showed heart in that in rd 7 he seemed to try and turn the fight around with a big rd but after that he was totally gassed and in the final rds he seemed to be fighting on instincts alone and his punches looked like they had nothing on them. He clearly wasn't in good condition.
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  13. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    I've now seen the fight. He definitely looked "off". He came in looking softer and more frail (not that he's ever been an Adonis but he looked worse), he was affected by everything, it wasn't just Jerry Forrest, he was affected by everything that touched him. He looked done midway through the fight. Honestly he's lucky he escaped with a draw. I say that as someone who has said Hunter is the top 3-4 HW. Anyone else in the top 10 would've starched him.
  14. The Townsend

    The Townsend Member Full Member

    Mar 21, 2019
    But we love Zhang CT.
  15. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 3, 2006
    I don't disagree on the principle that HWs don't need to be big in order to be successful. There've been plenty of examples that prove otherwise. However, IMO, Hunter just isn't suited to be a successful small HW. The guys you named, Usyk, Mike Tyson... they are special. Holyfield was special. Ali was of course VERY special, and he wasn't a small HW for the era he was fighting in. Also some other small HWs that were not special were successful, like Chris Byrd for example, but Hunter just isn't. You can see it in the ring. He would've beaten Povetkin - who is not a big HW himself - if he wasn't fighting over his prime weight.