Michael moorer destroys roy jones jr h2h at lhw

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ellis!!!! Lmao!!!! You are desperated when you mentioned jimmy ellis in 1973 after shavers he had 2-4 of record(his 2 wins against pure trash) and then retired.
    and a shot norton(who could be knocked out by the roaches)he fought kenny in 1979.not exactly a great evidence of haVing great power.
    Shavers could bang but stopping a shot ellis and shot chinny norton is not a proof of it
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    No, proof of it is his peers and that has been signed off at the very top level. If we had a few going each way it would be totally inconclusive but when you have so many all preaching the same sermon? Case closed. Game, set and match. Time to hop into the ice bath baby.
     
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  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lmao. It is all you got? Like i told you before.. All you got as proof about the topic of shavers is blahblahblah. Words are not facts... No proof... Sorry you are in the same Point that you was in the beginning
     
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  4. Russell

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    Some fighters sure get a lot of credit for long knockout streaks on here, I fondly remember the sheer delusion people experienced when Edwin Valero blew out twenty something people in a row several years ago. Then there was a "puncher" called Tyrone Brunson I believe, who was the very definition of untalented and protected.
     
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  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Moorer would beat Roy at HW that's for sure....
     
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    Well at least i have that, which is something - you have absolutely nothing apart from a severe case of denial. More than happy to put my faith in Ali, Young, Caldwell, Norton, Polite and Lyle who were firmly unanimous. Shavers immense left hook on Lyle also had much more effect on Lyle than any single punch Foreman hit him with. George had to beat him down to put him on the floor.

    Accept it, embrace it, live it. If something is out of grasp it is out of grasp no matter how much we desire it.
     
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  7. BoboFett

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    He believes having a good KO percentage against weak comp makes someone great. You can easily pick apart the "greats" Moorer knocked out at LHW.

    Records after Moorer:

    Hassan: 10-7-2
    Claudio: 0-4
    Swindell: 22-21-4
    Delgado: 5-3
    Stewart: 4-7
    Thompson: Retired
    Sedillo: 11-19-3
    Allen: 1-1
    Melo: 3-4
    MacDonald (non-title): 0-1
    Stonewalker: 3-6-1

    That ensures that Moorer is the ATG puncher at LHW.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Absolutely.
     
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    I edited my prior post to show how great the competition did after Moorer. None ever won more than a regional title.
     
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  10. richdanahuff

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    As good as Moorer was at 175 he wasn't fully developed as a fighter at that weight though he had too much power for the division it seemed destroying RJJ at 175 is something else granted if Tarver could do it Moorer could as well but RJJ was no joke at 175 though he was a small 175....with Moorer he always has a chance at a KO but RJJ still blazing fast reflexes and hit hard as hell as well...I have to think on this on instinct I would go with RJJ over 12.

    Moorer was on his way at 175 to being the hardest hitting ATG he might have become but he moved up fairly quickly.....175 was hard for his frame.
     
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  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Kid you are mentally ******ed... NOW IN THE THREAD OF MOORER HE IS SAYING THAT YOU NEED KOS AGAINST GREAT NAMES OR DURABLE GUYS TO PROVE THAT YOU COULD HIT HARD...AND IT IS NOT ALWAYS TRUTH.THERE ARE SEVERAL TOP PUNCHERS THAT DID NOT STOP THE BEST OPPOSITION AND STILL NOBODY WOULD QUESTION THAT THEY COULD HIT PRETTY HARD .GOOD EXAMPLES ARE EARNIE SHAVERS OR DAVID TUA FOR EXAMPLE. SHAVERS STOPPED A SHOT NORTON AND KENNY WAS KNOCKED OUT BY EVERY HARD PUNCHER THAT HE FOUGHT PLUS IN 1979 NORTON WAS FINISHED.AND JIMMY ELLIS IN 1973 WHEN WAS FINISHED TOO AND ELLIS NEVER WAS A GREAT THING. SHAVERS STOPPED PURE GARBAGE. SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS PURE GARBAGE. ROY JONES WAS NOT AN ALL TIME PUNCHER AT 175. EVEN IF HE DID NOT STOP THE BEST OPPOSITION MICHAEL MOORER COULD HIT MUCH HARDER THAN JONES BECAUSE BEING HIMSELF A PUNCHER HE WAS NATURALLY A MUCH BIGGER AND STRONGER MAN THAN JONES WHO WAS MORE A BIG MW AND MOORER WAS A NATURAL FULL SIZED MODERN CRUISER.
    You only have to watch his kos and the effect on his rivals.. Moorer was a killer puncher at 175 he was a very heavy handed guy
     
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  12. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    I have nothing?lmao foreman stopped lyle and shavers could not.foreman stopped a peak norton,shavers stopped a shot norton,foreman fought much better versions of Ali and jimmy young.. Shavers fought a zombie 77 Ali and a very green young,Foreman stopped caldwell faster than shavers. All you got is polite so Foreman was the better puncher against greater level of opposition right? I win you lose
     
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    In your opinion who did hit harder at 175 moorer or jones?
     
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    :eek:
     
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  15. BoboFett

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    Let me get this right. You disparage someone else's KO's because they were in your opinion against "shot" fighters, but the KO's Moorer had against his less than mediocre comp is evidence he was a massive puncher because of how this less than average comp reacted to being knocked out?

    Besides I thought you blocked me
     
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