Michael Moorer speaks out on Pacquaio - Mayweather

You ****ing ******, where did anyone say EPO is not a PED? Nice way of trying to change topic from what you wrote. Let me refresh you, you wrote that EPO is what PAC is using and what is helping him. You have no clue what EPO is other then it is a PED.

 

I don't understand why people are still debating what happened in the negotiations and asking for a 'reliable' source. IT DOES NOT EXIST. All of people involved have agendas. No matter how much they think they are being honest to the public - there is always a certain level of spinning of facts in order for them to look good.

All of this squabbling here about who and what was offered is BS. The reality all of us are basing it on supposed sources. Often worse than that - A heard from B who is a reliable insider told reporter C. Hearsay.

As they say there is always 3 sides to every story - his, hers and the truth. In this case Pac's, PBF's and the truth.

 

I have a quote of arum saying pac knew about the 14 day offer since January the 1st.

 

Actually i have an actual quote of arum saying pac knew of the 14 day window offer since Jan the 1st and already rejected it.

This is from bob arum himself

 

I'm asking because I got sick and tired of following this whole circus so I stopped following it. Now that I'm here I wanted to know if there might have been an official statement somewhere and I wanted to catch up on things.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?

 

I can't believe you quoted my comment and then proceeded to use "Bob Arum" :/

Pretty sure in one thread you have described Arum as a liar or equivalent - if not worse.

 

Why wouldn't I quote bob arum in this instance, when he himself backs up the claim that the 14 day offer was made before mediation.

The debate i was having with another post was if mayweather made the 14 day offer before mediation. Initially bob said that was a lie. He has know admitted that they did make the offer.

So he is a good source considering he was forced to re think his position on lying to the public and deceiving them about that offer never happening.

 

Where did I say Pac was using EPO???

Where did I say that you said it wasn't a PED??

**** boy, I said it was one of the primary PEDs suspected by Team Mayweather.

**** off. :hi:

 

Mayweather would have his blood taken as well. So if he felt that taking blood away from Pacman would weaken him, wouldn't taking blood from Mayweather weaken Mayweather as well??

 

whoa whoa whoa hold it right there buddy. Such simple direct unbiased logic is going to fly way over the heads of the *******s. You have to dumb that down a few notches for them. Maybe try to convert it into a cartoon pictorial

 

Here is how I understood the events occurring after GBP comes out with their demand for random blood testing:

1. Top Rank and Pacquiao counter-offer with pre-fight conference, 30-day & post-fight testing schedule
2. GBP and Mayweather rejects it, but offers the 14-day window afterwards
3. TR and Pac rejects 14-day window offer, sticks to its offer.
4. Both teams go into mediation. All offers re-set to zero.
5. TR and Pac makes the offer of 24-day window for testing.
6. GBP and May rejects the offer. No counter-offer made.
7. Mediation ends. Top Rank and Pac move on.
6. Mayweather publicly repeats offer for 14-day window so as not to appear that mediation failed because of him.

I believe that both parties could have settled at the 14-day window for testing had not GBP and May publicly called out Pac with their press release insinuating that he is not clean and demanding that "he explain himself". By doing so, they showed bad faith and polluted the negotiating atmosphere. They underestimated Pac's pride and stubbornness, believing that they could bully Pac , who simply wouldn't walk away from 40M. They were wrong.

 

You wrote "HGH is not the culprit here but EPO. " So what are people suppose to take from this? Then your next comment was EPO is one of the primary PED. Who doesn't already know that. Now you turned it around o say that was what they suspected. You DID not say that earlier.

 

Not the culprit in what they are testing for.

And if a hard to detect substance that increases red blood cell production(that carries oxygen) wouldn't help a boxer in the championship rounds when he opponent starts to wane then.........:huh ................. stop taking what you are taking.

 

Everything that Pacman has to go through Mayweather has to go through as well. So why is it only about Pacman being weakend or Pacman possibly using steroids.

So what if Mayweather asked for higher testing. He has to put himself through the same ****.

Shouldn't both fighters want to ensure that there opponents are clean for fight night. Even if neither cheated in the past. Wouldn't they want to ensure that neither cheats for this fight. Who knows what a fighter might do to get an edge with a fight of this magnitude.