Michael Moorer vs James J Jeffries

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Who wins?

  1. Moorer KO/TKO

    77.8%
  2. Moorer PTS

    11.1%
  3. Jeffries KO/TKO

    11.1%
  4. Jeffries PTS

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If taken for face value then Moorer should win. But in fairness it’s not really a practical matchup. Rules and conditions were too dissimilar
     
  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Ruhlin footage shows Jeffries had plodding feet while on the chase which many accounted of Jeffries during his career, that part of the matchup likely won’t change. Moore will be far from stationary and force Jeffries to pursue and open himself up.

    Maybe Jeffries can use his strength and wrestling to roughhouse Moore and dig that left hook enough times if the rules and gloves allow him to.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If we are dealing in face value, then a dominant champion should always be favored over a transient one.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Referring to one as a “ dominant “ champion and the other as a “ transient “ one needs a little context
     
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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Also depends on the opposition that the dominant champion faced compared to the transient champion as well though.
     
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    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    The best of an era no less! Moorer was never the best active heavyweight in the world.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    That would depend on their respective levels of competition.
    For example Sonny Liston with just 1 successful defence was never a dominant champion,because he had the misfortune to come up against probably the greatest heavyweight ever in Muhammad Ali in his 2nd defence.

    How good would you have to be to dominate the likes of a near 40 years old 2 years retired Light heavyweight Fitzsimmons conceding 47lbs?
    A 36 years old 3 years retired Corbett conceding 27lbs?
    How skilled would you need to be to show your superiority over the likes of
    Jack Munroe 7-2-0 and John Finnegan 4-2-4?

    Would both of the latter even cause Daniel Dubois to break into a sweat?
    Moorer isnt an ATG,but with a record of 52-4-1,including wins over
    Holyfield
    Schulz
    Cooper
    Bean
    Stewart
    Botha
    Smith
    Moorer was a good heavyweight,only beaten by Foreman,Holyfield,Tua,and Castillo ,[when he was 37 and past it.] He was also a southpaw,and a decent size,standing 6'2"with a 78" reach and scaling around 220lbs.Jeffries would not be outsizing him, nor would he have 12 years age advantage on him,as he did on Fitz.
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Fun fact. This fight was actually made. Watch for yourself.

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  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Little bit harder when your contemporaries are Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, George Foreman and Evander Holyfield ;)
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly!
    Contemporaries and rated when he was were among others.
    Foreman
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Tucker
    Ibeabuchi
    Byrd
    Tua
    Mercer
    Bruno
    Morrison
    Ruddock
    Bowe
    Golota
    Briggs
    Rahman
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah I respect Jim Jeffries but no way was he ever surrounded by a crowd like that