Michael Moorer vs Oleksandr Usyk at HW

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is clearly the better fighter but i do feel like if they fought H2H it would be a close competitive fight. I saw Usyk decision but he'd be pushed

    How do you think the fight would go down the stretch ?
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Moorer wasn't that good. He had a little power, and a faux southpaw stance. He got lucky in that Holyfield had some sort of heart attack when they fought.
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    usyk is not the better fighter.
     
  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Moorer but I would take Uysk with confidence. Too me Moorer is somewhat underrated because of the brutal ko losses he had against Foreman and Tua. He had some really solid wins at heavyweight but I think Uysk's superior footwork, speed and overall boxing ability is a lot to overcome for Moorer.

    I totally get why some would argue that Uysk hasn't done anything at heavyweight yet and I would agree but what he accomplished at Cruiserweight and how he did makes me think he is the goods.
     
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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    well, if aj gives usyk that work, then that should answer your questions about who is better, no? cause the majority of you think aj aint much. and if it dont take much to work usyk, then what would usyk do against someone who actually reached the top? i mean, if usyk cant match what andy ruiz did, then who could he actually be favored over from the past champs? now if usyk does in fact beat aj, then you guys see better than i do. either way, this fight will tell you about the actual quality of that stacked cruiserweight division i heard so much about.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unless Aj totally destroys Usyk or Usyk totally destroys Aj then my opinion wouldn't really change that much. Moorer looked fundamentally great against Holyfield though Holyfield outclassed him in the rematch, and i feel H2H Moorer would drag Usyk into a dogfight and make him work to earn rounds, far more than Glowacki did. I feel its just a matter of styles
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    me too. but trying to talk how styles mesh here is like talking klingon. even if your right, nobody would know. ok, maybe a handful would, but finding them, and debating them, amongst all the fanboys, is fruitless. nobody cares, theyre here to nuthug and hate. thats why i usually stick to a+b equations. but you know im capable of more. usyk isnt some defensive genius like some make him out to be, he gets hit. often. and michael hit hard, very hard. aj hard. so we will see how he handles getting tagged by similar power moorer would be landing on him. if aj, a much slower guy, can find usyk and get him out of there, do you doubt moorer could do the same?
     
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  8. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight with AJ will determine what kind of narrative should average fans push, if he beats AJ, than he is better than most, but if he loses than he is a hypejob, even though he accomplish same as AJ+Fury and with no advantages on his side.


    But styles make fights and there is nobody untouchable. Sooner or later there will be somebody that will beat stylistically.


    Having said that, I don't think Moorer will be a problem for Usyk, but if they fought 3 times who knows. maybe he would win one time.

    Sadly in modern era HW fighters fight only one or two times per year.


    Some of you guys really obsessed with 0. All of my favourite fighters had losses, when you fight champions/top guys there will be a lose.

    Some of you still mocking AJ for his lose, I don't, because he is a better fighter than before.

    Usyks style and ability is a problem for all the HW in any era. That does not mean that he would win against them of course, but nobody would walk through him.
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Frazier would walk through him, he's all wrong for Usyk. Besides that he gives every heavyweight champion a incredibly hard night if he can't beat them. Except Lennox Lewis, he'd beat Usyk mid-difficulty, and Holyfield from the Dokes fight, he'd give Usyk utter hell and probably win a wide decision.
     
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  10. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe, maybe not. I don't like comparing fighters from different eras, especially guys who fought 15 rounds.
     
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  11. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moorer would be the best person Usyk ever faced (until the AJ fight happens). Usyk would not be the best name Moorer ever face, that would be Holyfield. If we take a younger version of Moorer (somewhere up until that first Holyfiled fight) Usyk has his hands very full.

    Yet, I think the style advantage favors Usyk here. Moorer was a bit basic. Good all around, but basic. He didn't really excel at anything but he came to fight and he put his punches together well. Usyk does not have enough punching power for it to be an easy night; however, Usyk's constant movement would be a problem for Moorer. Moorer likes to trade at mid range, and Usyk is always on the move. I'd say it's an Usyk UD, but in a tough competitive fight.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yet you're posting whiny passive aggressive tripe about a completely different fight, as well as your thoughts on Usyks fanbase rather than discuss the logistics of this fight.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    and if thats the case, that still dont change a damn thing i said. any more whataboutisms you want to get off your chest?
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    That's a not a whataboutism lmao.
     
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  15. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Usyk Decision or late stoppage.
     
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