You often hear Moorer rated among the LHW division's very elite in a H2H sense, but his opposition at that weight class wasn't the best. I'm curious to see who people would label as clear favourite's over him. Guys that I think would beat him Moore Charles Jones Foster Tunney Conn Langford Spinks Saad Muhammad also has a chance, maybe Loughran and Bivins.
I'm sure some of the greats could beat him but I'd pick him against any of his contemporaries. Off the top of my head: Virgil Hill Bobby Czyz Prince Charles Williams Donny Lalonde Dennis Andries He never impressed me as a chubby heavyweight. He slowed down & his chin wasn't great. He had great one punch power as a light heavyweight. Moving up was good for him financially I'm sure but he might have been special had he stayed at 175. A match with him & Roy Jones would have been interesting.
Are you talking about him weighing 175 the day of the fight or him coming into the ring at 210, 215 because he weighed in 36 hours before?
That's basically what I've said in the past when this topic comes up. He looked devastating in those 22 or 23 fights that he had 175 but maybe only 1 or 2 of them were against Quality comp. And one of those guys ( leslie Stewart ) was out boxing him for most of their fight before he fell. Something tells me that Virgil Hill might have gotten him had they fought around 1990.
Like some of the other posters I feel it impossible to say because Moorer never faced any really stiff competition at light heavyweight. I do feel he would've been a problem for pretty much anyone in the division but that is simply speculation. If him and Virgil Hill were to fight in the early 90's it could've told a lot about Moorer as a light heavyweight my money would've been on Moorer.
I think Virgil Hill would have beat him:deal I think Hearns would have been a live underdog, along with Czyz... I mean who was the best guy MM faced at LH? Frank Swindell? thats not much to go on, cmon... And like the previous poster stated, weighing in 175, then coming in the ring at 190-195- is BULL****..
How is it bull****? If he can do it why shouldn't he? Surely they should beat a weak drained fighter??
It was a disappointment to hardcore fans when he abandoned the Light Heavyweight division. He was such an exciting fighter at that weight. I don't think it's a given he would have beaten all his contemporaries, let alone the all time greats of the division. He was hurt by Frankie Swindell and struggled with a fading Leslie Stewart. He and Charles Williams would have been a war. Virgil Hill had the awkward style to possibly outbox him. Of course my man Saad Muhammad would have been a great dream matchup. Saad's toughness was well proven at 175. Moorer's was not as he left the division before facing the top fighters. He was powerful at 175 but didn't KO any elite fighters with one punch. He destroyed the mediocre Freddie Delgado but he didn't even floor Stewart who had already been kod by Hill and Don Lalonde.
I agree with you SS that Virgil Hill would beat MM,...but really, look no further than Michael Spinks....Spinks ices him in 6.
Marvin Johnson Eddie Mustafa Muhammad Yaqui Lopez John Conteh Victor Galindez Joey Maxim Jimmy Bivins Ezzard Charles John Henry Lewis M Matthew Saad Muhammad Michael Spinks.
Mike was one of those fighters, who had the "Boxing by Numbers" down pat, This "Correctness" Combined with his Obvious punching Power and Manevolent Attitutude certainly made him much too good for the Middling and and Borderline contenders.. But that could also of been said of the High-Guard Correct Fundermentals, Heavy Handed Mike Rossman, never better exhibited then against the faded Galindez in their Initial Encounter, But Alvaro Yaqui Lopez bulled him Off of his Cultured Kilter and then the The Precision Machine was found wanting as a "Wildness of Response" had been bred out of it, a bit like a Rolls-Royce Vs a Humvee ...In a Race ... If the Humvee takes the race down a Dirt-Back Road.. The Precision instrument can start suffering component Failure, against the Very Best i feel Moorer 's leanings towards Perfection would have those Leanings Read and Mapped.. those Habits all fighters have, the Favoured punch sequences, Intimidation will not do it, It would have to be done by Deed.. Maybe not even the best.. perhaps the most determined and persistent Perhaps a Yaqui Lopez, Perhaps a Young Doug Jones, i think They would certainly have proved a bit more revealing