Michael Spinks: An under-appreciated ATG

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  1. Addie

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    He will forever be remember as being the man to be knocked out by Mike Tyson in the very first round of a Heavyweight championship bout. This is unfortunate.

    He was also the undisputed light-heavyweight champion who had never lost at the weight, and who had successfully moved up to Heavyweight to defeat Larry Holmes not once, but twice.

    I don't know much about this fighter. Could people discuss his strengths and weaknesses, and his greatest wins in attempt to educate me on Michael Spinks?
     
  2. janitor

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    To kick off:

    If Spinks had even lasted a few rounds against Tyson then many if not most people today might have him as the No1 light heavyweight of all time.

    That one loss does tarnish his legacy and in a misleading way.
     
  3. Muchmoore

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    I rank him only behind Charles all time at LHW. His ackward style presented his oppontants all kinds of problems, and he had good power as well. Was a very well rounded fighter with no weaknesses and came to fight.

    His win over The Camden Buzzsaw Qawi is very impressive, who later went up in weight and gave Holyfield an absolute war. Eddie Davis was also a great fighter that The Jinx beat. Marvin Johnson was a good fighter, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad was a very good fighter, Sears was unbeaten and giving Spinks a good fight before he was stopped early. Macdonald and Rivadenyra were unbeaten world title challengers who Spinks knocked out.

    The fact that Spinks was unbeaten in this era as well adds to his legacy. Sure, he was stopped by Tyson, but it was Tyson's best fight and Spinks was simply too small and not an ATG HW.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Thanks for the input.

    Still, what are your opinions on his victory over Larry Holmes.

    I have never sat down and watched the entire fight, neither of them, and are they regarded as all-time great wins, or was it just a matter of Holmes fading?

    Did he actually deserve the verdicts, and how was he able to overcome Holmes jab and outland the man with the reach and size advantage?
     
  5. Muchmoore

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    His wins over Holmes are great due to the fact he was the first to move up and win the HW crown. But Holmes was pretty clearly faded here, he had already been pushed to the absolute limit by Carl "The Truth" Williams and had been out of his prime for a few years. Holmes was still a good fighter but not a great one.

    I thought Spinks deserved to win the first fight, but the 2nd should of gone Holmes way.
     
  6. Addie

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    Thanks. :good

    I just found out something new about Michael Spinks. The man is absolutely class, and the way he speaks here in his post-fight conference for the Tyson fight was really nice to see. He made no excuses, and answered every question with dignity.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=X1Fnb03g7JM&feature=related
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    LHW rankings

    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Gene Tunney
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Bob Foster

    As much as I disliked his awkward style, he was undeniably effective, with great power in his right hand(The Jinx) and great timing. Very good jab as well, just a difficult fighter to figure out. Arguably #3 on that list.

    He holds wins over pretty much every top LHW of a great era for the division, aside from Saad Muhammad(who was past his best by the time Spinks really caught his stride), which I'd have picked Spinks to win in a barn-burner. Both had great power and good boxing skills, whereas Spinks was just the more unorthodox performer and would've timed Matt with one of his patented Jinx punches to set off a mid to late rounds stoppage over 15.

    Galindez was another that was done by the time Spinks was taking over. All would've been great fights.
     
  8. janitor

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    Your list insults many great light heavyweights.
     
  9. Addie

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    What is your list of top 5 light-heavyweights
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Tough.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    My list is 5 fighters long, so obviously I'm going to leave many out, in this case the likes of Loughran, Langford(who I have difficulty placing at one weight), Johnson, etc.
     
  12. McGrain

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    I think your five is OK, but Langford should be on this list in my view. You should set out to get to grips with the man, it would be a rewarding journey.


    Spinks - top 55, all time, p4p. Unquestionably top 8 at lhw, which is a very very stacked division. Very few 175lb specialists have the type of results against ATG heavies that he does, contriversial or not.
     
  13. McGrain

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    I would like to publicly acknowledge that "it would be a rewarding journey" is a pretty gay thing to say.
     
  14. Russell

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    There isn't a loss more devastating in boxing history than Spink's to Tyson.

    Amazing what a single "blemish" on your record can do.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Yet Patterson has survived with his reputation intact having suffered two similair losses to Liston.